Anschutz 64 action problem....need a little help

[dtucker]

I sold a friend a new Anschutz with a 64 action in a 17hmr about 2 or 3 years back and he uses it a lot on his property. Here lately he said it will sometimes when he chambers a round it will not fire but leave a strike mark on the shell and he can recock it and then it will fire. I spoke with him today and he said it is getting worse. Do these have a spring in them and maybe he has a week spring that needs to be replaced?

Thanks,
Dan

 

[hogpatrol]

Had the same problem. Dirt in the trigger. I have had this problem more than once with two 64 actions. One small flake of burnt powder is all it takes. You know the drill, flush with lighter fluid and blow it out, flush again, more air. If that doesn't fix it, firing pin cleaning may be in order.

Edit, He may have a lot number of bad ammo too.

 

[dtucker]

Do you need a special tool to get into the bolt to take it apart and clean?

 

[hogpatrol]

Do you need a special tool to get into the bolt to take it apart and clean?

The bolt head just twists off by hand exposing the firing pin and spring. To remove the hammer use a pin punch on the small dowel pin. The dowel pin goes through a hole in the hammer rod. Once it's removed the rod will come out and the cocking piece will come out. They do build up gunk in that area.

 

[hogpatrol]

 

[dtucker]

Your the man and can not thank you enough. I went to Tenn. to visit my sister and just got back in today. I will call him up later and head over to his house and see what we can come up with and get it fixed.

 

[hogpatrol]

Your the man and can not thank you enough. I went to Tenn. to visit my sister and just got back in today. I will call him up later and head over to his house and see what we can come up with and get it fixed.

Dan, I forgot to say you need to drop the hammer (just twist the back end) before knocking out the dowel pin. Remember how it comes apart. I found on one, the dowel pin hole was a skosh off center.

 

[Delfuego]

I would take out the firing pin and clean it real well, then test it. If that doesn't solve it, I would completely disassemble after. Putting the bolt back together was a pain!

I punched the cross-pin out and it is a very soft/cheap pin. It ended up mushrooming when I reinstalled it. Anschutz NM only sells that pin, but they gave me the dimensions and I will eventually get a hardened one.

 

[drjjpc]

Dan, I forgot to say you need to drop the hammer (just twist the back end) before knocking out the dowel pin. Remember how it comes apart. I found on one, the dowel pin hole was a skosh off center.

I must sound like an idiot but I can't get my Weatherby XXII/Anschutz bolt back in my rifle. I've been on sites that say to twist the cocking piece on the bolt handle, but mine only moves about 1/4" each way. I've taken the front part of the off and on about 100 times and clicked it once or twice each time when together. My bolt goes in a bit more than halfway but no more. I know about the left side bolt release and the trigger too. I put the safety on and even took out the magazine. Do I have to take the bolt apart again? I hope not. I have what Anschutz said handle at 10pm and round part of the bolt on top.

 

[Tim Slater]

Is the bolt cocked? It sounds like it is not.

It's not the front you need to twist to cock, but the very rear. Look at the rear half, you'll see there is a join behind the handle; on the underside this join forms a cam. Take hold of the rearmost part, and pull it back against the cam until it engages the notch at the top of the cam.

With the bolt cocked you can insert it into the action, while depressing the trigger.

 

[Fire Dog]

Is the bolt cocked? It sounds like it is not.

It's not the front you need to twist to cock, but the very rear. Look at the rear half, you'll see there is a join behind the handle; on the underside this join forms a cam. Take hold of the rearmost part, and pull it back against the cam until it engages the notch at the top of the cam.

With the bolt cocked you can insert it into the action, while depressing the trigger.

Exactly right! Had that very same problem after doing a major clean of the bolt {complete disassembly, clean & lube} Everything looked right but bolt would not slide all the way into lockup.
Had everything back in place but had failed to cock the bolt... DOH!
Anschutz North America has very good and detailed instructions with pictures {worth a thousand words} that will help guide you through disassembly, cleaning and reassembly.
The hardest thing to reinstall was the black snap ring that holds the extractors in place on the bolt...
Had several attempts before getting it to snap back in place with both extractor hooks in place.
You can hook one side but not be able to get it to pass over and secure in the grove on the other side with the extractor captured. Finally started the spring over the extractor on one side but NOT in the grove and then over the other side extractor and while holding the extractors in their groves tapped the spring straight down and it then snapped into place on each side of the bolt where it was suppose to go...
If you start with the clip in the grove on one side there just does not seem to be any way to get it to reach far enough to engage the grove on the other side... It has to clip into those groves at the same time.... I can only suppose that there is some specialty tool for that job.. Just be aware that once you pry that black retaining clip off it is a real job to reinstall it!
Go for the brake cleaner in a spray can or ultra sound clean and leave the extractors in place.
They collect crud/fouling over time and it is easy to just clean the bolt face and under the extractors with a bit of solvent with a Q-Tip and an old tooth brush.

 

[drjjpc]

Here is 2 pics of my bolt. The handle portion only turns a little one and ditto the other. Also with the front section on I can see the firing pin poking out a tiny bit. Last thing when I first took it apart by hand the rear section of the bolt handle popped off into my palm with a lot of force. Tim, the thing you mentioned about pulling back, I can't pull it back while it engages anything. Do I have to take it apart again? One other thing I never did anything with the extractors. Only pulled out the bolt to add a firing pin spring ( I never had one). Since I didn't have a FP spring originally, I wanted to check the big connector spring and knocked out the pin from the rear. Ever since could not get it back in rifle.

 

[Tim Slater]

That's not cocked. Turning the handle won't cock the bolt unless it's in the receiver

Hold the back (rounded) end, pull it back against the spring and twist it against the cam. There is a notch at the top of the cam to hold the end. Then you can reinsert the bolt.

 

[tmwinds]

If you don’t have the hand strength or the rear end of the bolt is slippery just lightly clamp the rear of the bolt in a padded vise and rotate the bolt handle until it is in the cocking notch.