Annealing machine

[Plumsask]

I am serious about shooting, and have a few BR guns. I usually stop shooting my barrels at 450-500 rds. About 90% of what I shoot is 6 Dasher at 500 yds. Average shooting day for me is about 25-35 rounds twice a week. In all conditions I use wind flags & and my goal is to be able to consistently shoot 1.5”-2.5” five shot groups in light winds. What is a great day? ...1.0” - 1.25” 5 shot groups. Anymore, my BR shooting is just for fun. My loaded 6 Dasher ammo will easily last more than my shift. Instead of changing my load, I just nudge my Ezell Tuner.
It helps to be retired,
Ben

This makes more sense to me, I was curious to see if it was for a very competitive shooter who is expecting a very high level of accuracy.

Thanks

Ave

 

[BenPerfected]

This makes more sense to me, I was curious to see if it was for a very competitive shooter who is expecting a very high level of accuracy.

Thanks

Ave

I am no longer much of a competitive shooter, but I am as serious as I ever was about long range accuracy.
Ben

 

[normmatzen]

I agree the AMP is a very well designed unit (I'M an electrical engineer) but I still prefer my ANNIE!
It takes very little time and a bottle of Tempilaq to find the correct heating time for each of your calibers and brand of cases, but once done you're gold!
AND, the ANNIE is half the price of the AMP. For the same price of the AMP you can get the Super ANNIE which has twice the power and can be used with 100% duty cycle.

 

[Bc'z]

If you have some electronic experience, you can build this really great induction annealing machine. Cost wise for about $350 bucks.
It does precise annealing times, down to the 1/100 of a second. It's fast, 100 cases in less than 15 minutes. Take a look at the video, further down on page one.
The "basic GinaErick"

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/induction-brass-annealer-redux.3908353/

Beings your local..
Wanna do some trading?
Or can you be commissioned to build 1??

 

[BenPerfected]

AMP, yes it is expensive but it is a lifetime investment (and if you decide to sell it you'll get the most back out of it) and will be the most consistent of all of them, some of the "flame" guys will argue but there is no way to keep the pressure and flame the same with bottled propane. Good luck with your search!

I am curious as to what a used AMP would likely sell for on AS. For some, lifetime investment can vary significantly
Ben

 

[Shooter13]

I am curious as to what a used AMP would likely sell for on AS. For some, lifetime investment can significantly vary
Ben

Well, at my age "lifetime" is limited LOL but I'm sure you can look it up here and see what they have sold for, I've seen everything from $900 for the 1st gen that need the AZTEC mode to $1,400 for the newest ones that were only used once or twice.

 

[BenPerfected]

Paid $800 for mine shipped .

 

[PatMiles]

AMP!

 

[PatMiles]

Be careful.....

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[Justin B]

I'm starting off with Annealeez

 

[338 dude]

I'm starting off with Annealeez

Before anyone gets upset yes there are better annealers but for starting out ease-of-use price I started out with an annealeez and have not changed yet it does what I need it to do

 

[Pawnee Bill]

I’m looking into getting a annealing machine and was wondering what everybody recommends. Thanks

Don't even think about anything other than an AMP II. It is the bestest, fastest and easiest machine on the market today. Customer support is fantatic, what more could you want. Buy the AMP II today, you'll be glad you did.

 

[Joe Salt]

Plus 1 on the AMP

Joe Salt

 

[PopCharlie]

I have an AMP annealler that I've been using for about 6 months now. I really like it. Its easy to set up and use. I anneal brass for 4 different rifles. I anneal after each firing. I have been able to bring back into use brass that I had thrown in the bone pile. My process is to clean, deep, then anneal. Then on to the bench for sizing ETC.
The only downside is a small one. You need to analyze a piece from each new batch you buy. The analysis process destroys the one piece.
I have found much more consistent sizing and neck tension as a result of annealing.

 

[Bisson1990]

An typical annealing service cost is around $.20 ea. if my math is right, it would take you about 5,000 rounds to break even on a AMP Annealer investment. That also means you would likely have shot out 5-10 barrels.
Ben

How reliable are these services? Do you trust that you are getting your brass back? (kinda the game processor question)

 

[PopCharlie]

I have an AMP annealler that I've been using for about 6 months now. I really like it. Its easy to set up and use. I anneal brass for 4 different rifles. I anneal after each firing. I have been able to bring back into use brass that I had thrown in the bone pile. My process is to clean, deep, then anneal. Then on to the bench for sizing ETC.
The only downside is a small one. You need to analyze a piece from each new batch you buy. The analysis process destroys the one piece.
I have found much more consistent sizing and neck tension as a result of annealing.

Clean, decap and anneal, that is. Sorry for the typo.

 

[Shooter13]

An typical annealing service cost is around $.20 ea. if my math is right, it would take you about 5,000 rounds to break even on a AMP Annealer investment. That also means you would likely have shot out 5-10 barrels.
Ben

So you are saying in 3-5 years it is paid for, or if you shoot 30BR that is the same barrel and 2 years for ROI, I'm good with that.

 

[Evan]

So you are saying in 3-5 years it is paid for, or if you shoot 30BR that is the same barrel and 2 years for ROI, I'm good with that.

I don't think that's quite the right way to look at it. I can get 20+ reloads on properly sized Lapua brass in my bench guns without annealing. I don't think annealing would ever pay for itself because I can go a whole barrel on 100 pieces of brass, or about a year between rebarrels. New barrel, new brass. If I annealed, maybe I would go forever with the same brass, in which case I would save 100 a year, taking more than 10 years to break even

 

[Shooter13]

I don't think that's quite the right way to look at it. I can get 20+ reloads on properly sized Lapua brass in my bench guns without annealing. I don't think annealing would ever pay for itself because I can go a whole barrel on 100 pieces of brass, or about a year between rebarrels. New barrel, new brass. If I annealed, maybe I would go forever with the same brass, in which case I would save 100 a year, taking more than 10 years to break even

I'm not going to argue BEP but I can tell you as I'm sure many others can that annealing after each firing keeps the load pressure and consistency better and after all it's that 1 small hole or all 11s what we are after?

 

[338 dude]

I believe it does make my brass last much longer without cracks and it does keep consistency better but many people don’t Anneal which is just another reason I spent less than $300 on annealeez when there are better for $1000 plus what I spent