Aneal, oops Too hot, junk?

[GSP7]

I have anealed alot, but I have a batch of 20 pieces of brass I think I got the necks to hot. Necks look over soft when I seated the bullets. I used hornaday dies to seat, and the bullets have run out and you can see the brass expanded to one side. These are speer 270 gr. 9.3 bullets , which are .001-.002 larger diameter than Privi and Norma bullets. Maybe its crapy hornaday seater die along with the necks to soft is what it looks like. This is not target rifle brass, but 9.3x57. Its 8MM brass neckedup to 9.3 , all looked good till I seated the bullets.
If you get the necks too soft will they work harden by running them through a sizing die , say 10 times and shoot and reload a couple times or will they just stay real soft and should just shit can them?

 

[therifler]

Re: Aneal, opps Too hot, junk?

gs i to had a set of custom hornady dies. i got neck runout on them when resizing just the neck and only the part that was resized had runout .This translated into runout on the tips . I tried numerous cures. i to thought that annealing may have caused this problem . i made a set of dies myself and resized and seated with those dies and that solved the problem .
The Rifler

 

[GSP7]

Re: Aneal, opps Too hot, junk?

These are new cases and first load. The major run out happened when seating the bullets

You know how you can see the brass expanded out when you seat a bullet part way only into the neck. Only seated .25 deep. Well these, the brass is expanded out on one side but not on the opposite side, like the bullet got started into the brass crooked. I even tryed partialy starting the bullet in, lifted the press handle and spun the case several times as I pushed in the bullet. I can see the mouth of the neck kinda ovaled shaped as the bullet was started in. Im wondering if the neck was starting to crush because its to soft as the bullet first entered the case.
The run out was so bad i could see it with naked eye spinning it in my hand.
I chambered the 10 rounds that I "reloaded" into the rifle and could feel the chamber straighten out the bullet as I closed the bolt, and can see a rub mark on the neck bulge where the neck contacted the inside of the chamber neck when I closed the bolt.

Im trying to decide if I should just shoot them or seat the bullets deeper or take them apart. Shooting them would fire form and starighten the brass back out , but I am wondering if the necks are to soft, will they harden up after shooting and resizeing again.

 

[blawton]

The one thing that will destroy them when over anealled is the webbing on them will expand quickly. If the heat ring that you made when you did them didnt go below the neck more then a little bit they should be fine. They will harden back up after a few firings as long as you can still put primers in them they should be fine. I kinda sounds more like you didnt get them evenly heated when you did them.... What kind of brass are they?

 

[GSP7]

They are New ww 8mm brass, not trimed/squared up. They were heated even, spun in a drill, in a socket type heat sink with neck and just below shoulder exposed, over propane torch flame. Blue ring is just below neck. I know I got them too hot. Red. I screwed up. Part of the problem is crapy Hornaday seater die , I think.