AMP with Aztec Mode

[jrb572]

I’m going to buy the upgrade. I was thinking about starting an annealing service but did not want to send a test batch for every customers brass.

 

[3dogs]

Another $250, have not even unpack
mine yet!
Jim

 

[Bob L.]

Have to wonder if they will be dropping this service to help push the sales of Aztec.

They will. Why compete with yourself? Especially when the free testing brings in no revenue.

 

[Twoboxer]

"Free testing" was part of the package you initially purchased. Would be fun to see how they explain taking that away from those purchasers.

 

[carlsbad]

They will. Why compete with yourself? Especially when the free testing brings in no revenue.

We should probably archive the published data on the website. It may disappear soon. --Jerry

 

[PatMiles]

We should probably archive the published data on the website. It may disappear soon. --Jerry

I hope they don't pull that stunt, but...

 

[carlsbad]

"Free testing" was part of the package you initially purchased. Would be fun to see how they explain taking that away from those purchasers.

That and $6.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

 

[Jeff A]

It is a PITA to send cases to New Zealand to get the exact program, when changing brass lots or manufacturers.

How do you know it is a PITA? I sent about four batches off. Just as easy as sending it to the next town. I had an email in 3-4 days with all the info on my batches. Amazing service.

If this is as simple as Alex says, it should save some time. I often wonder about the program I am using on brass I have not sent for testing. This upgrade could solve that, if it doesn't cost another arm & a leg.

I would like the upgrade myself but I'm afraid it will cost multiple limbs! We'll know soon, I hope!

 

[Twoboxer]

That and $6.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

Wouldn't need coffee - especially that stuff - to enjoy the show.

 

[retired]

i am pretty sure i'll pass at that price.
the advantage of shooting stuff already in the list.

 

[Bob L.]

I hope they don't pull that stunt, but...

I don't think they will do that. I believe the free testing will be phased out over a reasonable timeframe (6 months?). I hope the software upgrade will be offered to existing owners (like me) at a reduced price.

My previous post sounded a little cynical and I didn't mean it to be. I think it is a good company and wants to maintain goodwill in its past, current, and future customers. However, they are in business to make money and need to recoup the time and effort that was put into the new software, including the research and testing involved in its development.

I will be purchasing Aztec. To me, there's no sense in having a state of the art machine and leave what I think is a useful upgrade on the table.

My opinion only.

 

[Willie]

How do you know it is a PITA? I sent about four batches off. Just as easy as sending it to the next town. I had an email in 3-4 days with all the info on my batches. Amazing service.



I would like the upgrade myself but I'm afraid it will cost multiple limbs! We'll know soon, I hope!

Well, got my brass segregated, boxed up, filled out the export papers, drove 20 miles to a PO, paid $35 for Priority Mail and waited 2 weeks & heard nothing. Emailed Alex, he hadn't received it. Drove back to PO and found USPS guy that traced it (tracking showed delivered the week before). It was at the NZ import officials, pending delivery to Alex. Finally got delivered a few days later.

Of course, once Alex had the brass in hand, I had that program the next day.
Just a fluke, I know, but it was a PITA for that batch. No fault to Alex, he's quick to reply.

 

[AWLEAPHART]

You guys buy up all you can. I’m going to wait on somebody to get a divorce and need money and sell theirs.
A Leaphart

 

[AWLEAPHART]

http://www.ez-anneal.com/
Starting to look better for me. Still a lot of money but it does have a case feeder.
ALeaphart

 

[rardoin]

You guys buy up all you can. I’m going to wait on somebody to get a divorce and need money and sell theirs.
A Leaphart

^^^^^
That thar is funny!!!

 

[memilanuk]

Well, here's a little more actual info, in lieu of the current rampant speculation

Our recent reveal of the AZTEC mode has caused quite a stir and now that we have a moment we would like to clear up some of the misconceptions and assumptions we have noticed.

1. AZTEC mode is NOT a firmware upgrade nor a patch to the existing software.

(We are aware that we called it such when we made our original Facebook post and that we referred to it as an "update" in the video but this is simply not the case. We have amended the original Facebook post to reflect this.)

AZTEC is entirely new software which runs the annealer in a completely different way when compared to to the original software. It is installed along side the current software and runs separate when selected.

2. AZTEC is an optional purchase and will not effect the price of the annealer itself. AZTEC will be an optional extra with all future machines.

3 The free calibration service for customers WILL continue and remain free of charge. The settings page will continue to be updated.

4. Firmware patches to update both AZTEC and the standard modes when required will be free of charge. (We will be releasing a large one soon after we get back from shot show which will unlock additional programs up to 160 in standard mode for the WSSM family of cases. We would like to include the auto feeder software with this patch but we cant promise it at this stage)

5. AZTEC wasn't made for free.
We are only two guys here at AMP, neither of us with the knowledge to write software, nor conduct the more in depth metallurgical research required to test our findings. It took the combined efforts of multiple outside contractors, as well as our local university, to enable us to correlate all the data and observations and create AZTEC.

All this has been going on over the last two years.

It is perfectly normal for companies to charge for additional software which fundamentally changes the operating nature of a product and we believe the price of AZTEC reflects the costs and effort involved in making it a reality.

6. Because we have only just lodged our patent for this new technology we can't say exactly how it works but we can say this: We have created an algorithm which is based off what we know about brass annealing times and power settings.

AZTEC mode has the ability to establish known datum points when performing the Analysis function.

We apply the result from the analysis into the algorithm and it gives us a setting which anneals that brass to our desired hardness.

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With that all said we can say that Shot Show is going very well and people who see AZTEC in the flesh are blown away by it. Also the AUTO feeder is working very well (however we wish we had a 110 volt Dillon as ours is 220 and wont work here

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We hope this clears everything up and we will keep you updated.

 

[Willie]

Well, here's a little more actual info, in lieu of the current rampant speculation

Thank you. It's starting to make more sense now. Sounds like we jumped the gun. Won't be first time or the last.,lol

 

[Dos XX]

Actual facts can really ruin a good thread.

 

[Willow]

These guys spent years getting the product just right before they released it. I love mine and look at it this way - the cost of the unit may seem expensive to some, but I look at it as the company recouping the R&D costs which went into it, which were not insubstantial. The cost of the software upgrade is the same to me. I think it's money well spent, but each person will need to weigh up the convenience/time saved vs cost.

 

[Bob L.]

Thank you. It's starting to make more sense now. Sounds like we jumped the gun. Won't be first time or the last.,lol

That answers all the questions for me. It's goods to hear it from "the horse's mouth." It's a good company and seems to truly value its customers. I will be buying the Aztec.