Amp Annealer and Scales

[6BRA]

Any issues with putting an Amp annealer next to upper end scales? Even if scales are unplugged? Damage?

 

[D-4297]

Not any kind of electronics expert , but common sense tells me this is not something I'd do . Think about how the Amp functions .

 

[6BRA]

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[6BRA]

So how much distance is needed between annealer and high end scales? Anyone know?

 

[ACard]

When I bought my AMP I knew I would be placing it within about a foot of my AnD- FX120i AT V3 set up. I was also concerned. I emailed Dennis at AMP and got an immediate reply that theirs was set up the same way and no issues. I have been running it 3 years and have had exactly zero issues.

 

[ACard]

also notice the proximity in their setup

 

[6BRA]

Perfect the answer I was looking for. Thank you! I had read at 1 time Not to run induction tool near a pacemaker, and it got my wheels turning on the delicate scales and their electronics.

 

[Dave M.]

So how much distance is needed between annealer and high end scales? Anyone know?

I’d personally position them a minimum of 3ft apart. The magnetic field is primarily contained within the coil but there is no telling how well the electronics inside the unit, driving the coil, are isolated. No sense taking any chances with a precision scale.
Dave

 

[6BRA]

I've got 4 to 5 feet. Keep scales unplugged and run on a flash fish, however magnetic fields are different. I keep thinking EMP, BOOM, another $1000.00 dollars. A Cards comments eased my mind a bit.

 

[ACard]

@x47Mike Been residing here for 3 years and zero issues

 

[6BRA]

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@x47Mike Been residing here for 3 years and zero issues

Marble base help that scale?

 

[RegionRat]

Marble base help that scale?

Pretty sure that is a granite mechanical inspection stone.

It has been fairly common practice to place lab scales on heavy granite stones for ages. It can help with isolation if there is other vibration from heavy work nearby. YMMV

 

[ACard]

Marble base help that scale?

It is a granite surface plate set on special vibration dampening feet that are made for the uber hi fidelity industry to reduce vibrations on speakers. Short answer to does it help is, i think it makes a difference.... I have not done any controlled experiments to see from a quantifiable standpoint. That said the less vibration and more level these set ups are the better. I can tell you across several calibers I can maintain an SD of 6 or better across a 50 round sampling.

 

[Chris Edmondson]

My AMP is about 6" from the A&D Autotrickler scale, I don't use them at the same time, never noticed any issues. I've had way bigger problems with static electricity which I finally got sorted out.

 

[ACard]

My AMP is about 6" from the A&D Autotrickler scale, I don't use them at the same time, never noticed any issues. I've had way bigger problems with static electricity which I finally got sorted out.

Static and living in an older house I found a line conditioner also was a huge help

 

[Chris Edmondson]

Static and living in an older house I found a line conditioner also was a huge help

I hear that, our place was built in 1958. Other than a 1990s addition, it's 2 wire; hot and neutral. While neutral does tie to ground at the panel, it's not ideal.

I ran an earth ground bare copper wire to my reloading room and now have anti-static mats under every piece of electronic gear; my A&D Autotrickler has never worked faster, nor better .

 

[Larry Koch]

I hear that, our place was built in 1958. Other than a 1990s addition, it's 2 wire; hot and neutral. While neutral does tie to ground at the panel, it's not ideal.

I ran an earth ground bare copper wire to my reloading room and now have anti-static mats under every piece of electronic gear; my A&D Autotrickler has never worked faster, nor better .

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Grounded conductor and ground, always are bonded at the service panel. No other place. You just don't have a separate ground wire branch circuit.

 

[Chris Edmondson]

Grounded conductor and ground, always are bonded at the service panel. No other place. You just don't have a separate ground wire branch circuit.

That's correct. The choice was made to ground the panel to the maze of galvanized water pipe in the crawl space, those pipes have been replaced with PEX. The original ground wire was bonded to new copper wire, and then to the cold water copper water inlet. That cold water inlet is where I tapped for my dedicated earth ground.

I've found at least one branch circuit with stray voltage on the neutral, I just don't trust it to be a great earth ground point.

 

[RegionRat]

If there are line noise issues in the house, I would also check to verify if that cold water inlet is really working too.
I would try and avoid forming ground loops. If there are many sources of e-fields around, those can create noise on lines.

 

[Larry Koch]

That's correct. The choice was made to ground the panel to the maze of galvanized water pipe in the crawl space, those pipes have been replaced with PEX. The original ground wire was bonded to new copper wire, and then to the cold water copper water inlet. That cold water inlet is where I tapped for my dedicated earth ground.

I've found at least one branch circuit with stray voltage on the neutral, I just don't trust it to be a great earth ground point.

I'm not sure where you are located, building codes very for the needs of the building structure and earth.

I would also check to make sure your ground jumper across water meter is in good repair. Thats a common issure on older homes.