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COLT45SA

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I'm wondering which ammo I should be shooting in my High Standard semi-auto pistols. standard velocity or high velocity.
 
I'm wondering which ammo I should be shooting in my High Standard semi-auto pistols. standard velocity or high velocity.
A lot depends on what your shooting.

My preference is high velocity or hyper velocity hollow points to get as much velocity to get them open up like I like; or for more penetration, for round nose rounds.
 
The standard velocity ammo will likely be more accurate in your pistol, assuming you buy decent ammunition. Of course, all these rimfires have their preferences, so HV might be best, but I'd start with SV.
 
go to the norma website and buy a couple bricks of tac 22 and match 22 while its on sale with free shipping today. Shoot standard velocity in that target pistol!
 
I'm wondering which ammo I should be shooting in my High Standard semi-auto pistols. standard velocity or high velocity.
Dismiss the few replies on HV! I just got schooled a few weeks ago by an older guy that shot High Standards in the military decades ago. He showed me his pristine pistol and without asking, showed me exactly where the frame cracks using improper ammo selection. He was shooting CCI-SV.
 
As with a .22 RF rifle, you need to try available brands and grades to find out what your pistol likes best, and to shoot it from a solid rest to find that out. Lapua Midas+, RWS R50 and Eley match is where I would start with some of the less expensives added. Its a fun process. Get a box of whatever you choose and go to it.
 
As with a .22 RF rifle, you need to try available brands and grades to find out what your pistol likes best, and to shoot it from a solid rest to find that out. Lapua Midas+, RWS R50 and Eley match is where I would start with some of the less expensives added. Its a fun process. Get a box of whatever you choose and go to it.
I really think this is pretty bad advice.

I seriously doubt anyone could shoot the difference between these top line ammo, and less expensive offerings from these (and other) manufacturers.

I've ransom rest tested numerous high end target .22s, and while there can be a difference between (for example) CCI SV, and Tenex Pistol, it is usually trivial, only statistically significant, after many large samples of each. More importantly, any difference would not represent any score differences, on either NRA Bullseye targets, or ISSF targets.

Bottom line, almost all quality target .22s, can hold the 50yrd x ring with any decent ammo.

Many people shoot Master level or better scores with CCI-SV.

I especially would advise anyone to not attempt 'group testing' with a pistol like we do with rifles. The error introduced by the shooter will dwarf any differences in actual accuracy..

The important thing is absolute reliability.

Next is shooting enough to gain a level of competence. This takes lots of ammo (and more dry firing). Of course if you're not going to compete, then reliability is really the only issue, from an enjoyment standpoint. But then you certainly don't need expensive top end ammo for that.

I've competed in various handgun disciplines for more than 50 years, at many major regional matches, Camp Perry, etc. I never saw, or heard of, someone shooting Midas+. I have been at major matches where at least half the field was shooting CCI-SV.

I would encourage the OP to post this question on Rim fire Central, Targettalk, or Bullseye-I forums. Bullseye-I esp. focuses on handgun, Rim fire Central has a High Standard specific sub-forum (featuring long-time factory gunsmith and personnel).

I have shot at various times, a High Standard Supermatic Citation purchased in 1965, 2 Pardinis, a High end 1911 conversion, a couple of Rugers, and a Benelli.

I still have the High Standard, and one of the Pardinis. I shoot mostly CCI-SV, Eley Club, SK Magazine, Wolf Match.

Dave
 
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I really think this is pretty bad advice.

I seriously doubt anyone could shoot the difference between these top line ammo, and less expensive offerings from these (and other) manufacturers.

I've ransom rest tested numerous high end target .22s, and while there can be a difference between (for example) CCI SV, and Tenex Pistol, it is usually trivial, only statistically significant, after many large samples of each. More importantly, any difference would not represent any score differences, on either NRA Bullseye targets, or ISSF targets.

Bottom line, almost all quality target .22s, can hold the 50yrd x ring with any decent ammo.

Many people shoot Master level or better scores with CCI-SV.

I especially would advise anyone to not attempt 'group testing' with a pistol like we do with rifles. The error introduced by the shooter will dwarf any differences in actual accuracy..

The important thing is absolute reliability.

Next is shooting enough to gain a level of competence. This takes lots of ammo (and more dry firing). Of course if you're not going to compete, then reliability is really the only issue, from an enjoyment standpoint. But then you certainly don't need expensive top end ammo for that.

I've competed in various handgun disciplines for more than 50 years, at many major regional matches, Camp Perry, etc. I never saw, or heard of, someone shooting Midas+. I have been at major matches where at least half the field was shooting CCI-SV.

I would encourage the OP to post this question on Rim fire Central, Targettalk, or Bullseye-I forums. Bullseye-I esp. focuses on handgun, Rim fire Central has a High Standard specific sub-forum (featuring long-time factory gunsmith and personnel).

I have shot at various times, a High Standard Supermatic Citation purchased in 1965, 2 Pardinis, a High end 1911 conversion, a couple of Rugers, and a Benelli.

I still have the High Standard, and one of the Pardinis. I shoot mostly CCI-SV, Eley Club, SK Magazine, Wolf Match.

Dave
It’s not been my experience in a rifle at 50 or 100 yards, and is the only thing I have to go on. Still it’s what I would do fwiw.
 
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It’s not been my experience in a rifle at 50 or 100 Sydney and is the only thing I have to go on. Still it’s what I would do fwiw.
Ok.

I'll stand by post as:

Actually responsive to the OPs original post parameters, and
Reflecting real world experience of shooters who compete at the highest levels with the identical, or similar gun the OP referenced..

But that's the internet. Get lots of opinions from anonymous strangers, sort through them and see what makes more sense.

Dave
 
You might start with Norma TAC-22. It's cheap, standard velocity ammo, that's often on sale. It is also made by RWS as their entry level ammo. Some of my bench rifles love it and shoot it accurately. I doubt you'll get higher quality SV ammo than Tac 22 at something like 8cpr or even less. You can then move up to the pricier stuff when you can outshoot the Norma.
 
Fellers, Gary has been around the turnip patch more than one time and didn't fall off the trailer. You sure won't see me at a match with CCI or Remington RF ammo. You know what? I have shot those and know how they shoot in my rifle.
 
It will depend on which one feeds and cycles best and which one gives you the best accuracy, for your needs.
Shoot some of both and find out.
 
Hi Standard DOES NOT RECOMEND use of Hi Velocity ammo!!! I have shot them quite a bit and have in the past few years shot a whole lot of SK magazine CCI standard works fine too. In my opinion its kind of a waste to shoot the high end ammo in a pistol. I reserve that for rifles.
I have a friend that has a Citation that has a cracked frame from CCI Mini Mags. He still shoots it a little with std vel but has a Victor for competition. I have had a bunch of them and the one I kept is a 68 Citation.
I have a bunch of books put out when Hi Standard was in its heyday that address the Hi Velocity problem- we just didn't know any better back then. Gary
 
Considering my experience with 22 RF ammo, it has been in rifles only, Win 52s, Rem 37s and one HB 40X, I'm going to try some high end stuff and some intermediate $ and lower $ stuff in my S&W 41 in the Spring when things warm up. I have a Ransom rest and may look into a set of grip inserts for it, otherwise it will be from a very steady sandbag rest.

I've gone the Green Tag, Winchester T22, etc. route in my rifles and none gave me the accuracy that RWS R50 and Laupa Midas + gives me. I have one 37 that likes Eley Match but just that one. Funny how that works but anyone with a rimfire rifle knows or eventually knows that, good ammo is where you find it.

I've always felt that starting at the high end ammo quality wise is the best practice. Once if find "the one" I can always experiment with cheaper stuff if I want. But, as always, there are more ways to skin the cat than my way.
 

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