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Air gun recommendations

DShortt

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So I'm considering trying to dip my toe into air guns. Initially I'm thinking I'd like something in .22 capable of 1000fps. I've absolutely no experience with air guns since I was a kid and those were BB guns and .177s and if I'm going to go down this path I definitely want something with more down range energy. Similar to .22lr subsonic energy levels.

I'd like something that's at least commonly accurate to 1MOA at 100 yds. And I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money for something I may decide isn’t interesting to me.

No .50 cals. At least not yet.

And suggestions will be much appreciated.

Thanks for looking.
 
Any specific model or .....?
I shoot a FX Maverick in 50 yard benchrest matches,,,I was shooting long range benchrest with a 284 heavy gun and a 6bra in light gun. Got into the Airgun last season. I totally enjoy it and it’s a little cheaper then powderburners after you get setup,,,ammo is cheaper for sure,,,give it a try
 
Air Venturi Avenger PCP rifle will fit the bill for everything you require and not break the bank. Look up reviews on YouTube, it's a crazy accurate and reliable air rifle.

Barracuda match pellets by H&N are the best.
Group in the pic is 5 shots at 53 yards.
Barracuda 21.14gr @ 2600 psi pressure

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I recently started playing with a PCP this winter. I went with a BSA R10se in 22 that was on sale at AOA. Incredibly accurate, extremely quiet, and has a classic look (to me anyway). Rated at low 900’s fps, but accuracy trumps speed. If you think you will shoot to 100 yards, get a non-choked barrel rifle that will handle slugs. The pellets aren’t good at all at distance unless there’s very little wind.
 
You will likely not match .22LR energy levels (typically 40 grain or slightly lower projectile weights, and 11-1200 FPS muzzle velocities. Although those are subsonic, they are actually in the transsonic velocity range. For your consideration: Diablo-shaped pellets (the vast majority of the normal, skirted pellets used in airguns) are inherently unstable at transsonic speeds. Air rifles can be as accurate or more accurate that .22LR firearms at short ranges, but energy and accuracy will be directly proportional to cost.

If you are looking to shoot 100 yds accurately with an air rifle AND want reasonable terminal energy, you might consider shooting slugs (bullet-shaped projectiles). The heaviest .22 cal pellets top out about 25 grains. You can find good slugs at that same weight or heavier, and they are more stable at higher velocities (so better for longer ranges). Obviously, heavier and faster also translates to more downrange energy. Also obviously, to push heavy projectiles faster, you need a "stronger" airgun. These do get pricy. FX has an excellent reputation, and several of their rifles offer barrels designed for slugs. They are not the only game in town, and there are a number of high quality rifles available from other manufacturers. Another consideration for the longer range, higher impact energy equation is larger calibers. You might look into rifles in .25, .30 or larger calibers as well.

To put your toe in the water, I might suggest that you compromise on range and energy, but definitely try a PCP. Something like a Benjamin Marauder in .22 or .25 caliber would give you a feel for a decent PCP and keep you in the $500 range (you will also need some form of high-pressure pump to charge the rifle). Can shoot further, but best accuracy at 50 yds or less. Better rifles (such as Air Arms, Daystate, FX, RAW, etc.) will run you closer to $1500-$2000+, and will require an electric pump to keep them charged up.

Good luck, hope some of this is helpful.
 
I recently started playing with a PCP this winter. I went with a BSA R10se in 22 that was on sale at AOA. Incredibly accurate, extremely quiet, and has a classic look (to me anyway). Rated at low 900’s fps, but accuracy trumps speed. If you think you will shoot to 100 yards, get a non-choked barrel rifle that will handle slugs. The pellets aren’t good at all at distance unless there’s very little wind.
I agree that slugs rather than pellets are going to be what I want.
 
I agree that slugs rather than pellets are going to be what I want.
Well, maybe. 22 cal slugs usually aren't nearly as accurate as the good match pellets. So just depends on what you're going for. Slugs are good for energy, pellets are great for accuracy.

1 MOA at 100 yards is no problem for a good 22 cal PCP using heavy match pellets. Accuracy is almost always best in the 800-900 fps range. Keeps you away from that transonic node as stated Rank Amateur, but still delivers good downrange performance and energy.

22 cal PCPs may not have quite as much energy as a 22LR, but damned if I can tell the difference. The 21.14gr Barracuda pellet delivers quite the wallop to small varmints and they drop dead instantly with one shot when placed in a good spot. My Avenger PCP wears a suppressor so it is extremely quiet and has almost no recoil. Triggers are really light and crisp on PCP rifles as well which greatly attributes to their accuracy. Whatever you go with, just make sure it has an adjustable pressure regulator. That allows you to tune loads in a similar manner to changing powder charges in centerfire rifles
 
Your budget will be your deciding factor, you can get Ruger American money PCP's and you can get Custom BR rifle money PCP's. If you only want to shoot slugs it narrows it down a little
 
Spring gun vs co2? for a spring gun, definitely get 177. Beeman or RWS. super accurate, will clean out the back yard of your squirrels and pigeons. Used ones are five times the quality and accuracy of new ones.
 
So I'm considering trying to dip my toe into air guns. Initially I'm thinking I'd like something in .22 capable of 1000fps. I've absolutely no experience with air guns since I was a kid and those were BB guns and .177s and if I'm going to go down this path I definitely want something with more down range energy. Similar to .22lr subsonic energy levels.

I'd like something that's at least commonly accurate to 1MOA at 100 yds. And I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money for something I may decide isn’t interesting to me.

No .50 cals. At least not yet.

And suggestions will be much appreciated.

Thanks for looking.
Some good hard questions, with good honest intent:
- how did you decide it needs to shoot 1000fps? Most airgun projectiles shoot quite poorly at that speed and most airguns themselves can’t do it. The ones that can mostly toss garbage when they do.
- 1 moa at 100y for not a lot of money is unrealistic. Doing 1moa at 100y isn’t easy with a 22LR and doing it with an airgun is generally a lot harder/ more expensive.
- are you willing to invest in pcp technology? If not you’re looking at spring guns and I don’t know anyone who shoots slugs from a springer well.
- My experience is slugs are not accurate. I know they can be but my $6k worth of pcps has not managed to shoot a single type of slug well. (They aren’t specifically slug guns but that’s my point). I think you’re going to need to look for a high power affordable slug gun as your first criteria.
 
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Cheap, 1 MOA at 100 and 1000fps in 22 cal are all tbings that are not going to happen. If you go pcp you will need air and trust me you don't want to hand pump. Just the carbon fiber tank set up will likely be more than you want to spend.

If you dont like frustration and you dont like spending a lot of money I really think you would be wise to stick with a good 22lr. On the other hand I have had a ton of fun with airguns over the years and the PCPs are amazing.
 
I have a Hill hand pump for the time being used to charge my BSA R10. While not ideal, it’s 45 regulated shots and 3-5 minutes of pumping to recharge to 232BAR. (3300 psi). Two ten shot mags came with it and I normally am done with my plinking session before I need to charge. It works and it’s good cardio too
 
I also decided to try out the field target game at our club, I bought a Daystate Wolverine R & a Air Venturi Rover compressor, WOW does this thing shoot!!!
couldnt be happier!!
 
Cheap, 1 MOA at 100 and 1000fps in 22 cal are all tbings that are not going to happen. If you go pcp you will need air and trust me you don't want to hand pump. Just the carbon fiber tank set up will likely be more than you want to spend.

If you dont like frustration and you dont like spending a lot of money I really think you would be wise to stick with a good 22lr. On the other hand I have had a ton of fun with airguns over the years and the PCPs are amazing.
There are reasons I'm considering an air rifle but I've absolutely no experience with them which is why I'm asking questions.
It's quite possible air rifles won't meet my requirements and if so then I'll abandon the possibility for now. I'd rather ask hard questions than spend money only to find out I won't be satisfied.

Thank you for your reply.
 
I also decided to try out the field target game at our club, I bought a Daystate Wolverine R & a Air Venturi Rover compressor, WOW does this thing shoot!!!
couldnt be happier!!
Yep, keep the power under 20ft-lb, distance less than 55y, pellets between .177 and .22 caliber, and airguns can shoot pretty darn good.

That said a Wolverine and compressor are not exactly cheap. But you get what you pay for and I fully endorse the investment.
 

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