Aggregate Definition as used in BR..... History

[Mulligan]

All,
We have a retired navy pilot that shoots with us who must have been an English Prof in a previous life.

He call me recently and asked why benchrest shooters were using the term "agg" at the last BR match. He is going to start shooting 600 yard benchrest with us and came out to see what it was about. He volunteered to call the line for me at the last match so he could join in. I explained to BR shooters, it means the average of the group size. Of course he said "you mean average....you should be saying average".

We all know, we mean average, but where did the term "agg" come from and why do we use it?
Does anyone know the history of this?
Am I wrong, is there some secret BR dictionary the defines this word differently?
CW

 

[JFrank]

I’m haunted by the same question”
Why AGG

 

[Mark W]

I always assumed that it short for aggregate since it was made up from a group of scores.

 

[Mulligan]

I always assumed that it short for aggregate since it was made up from a group of scores.

Yes, but aggregate means the sum of.
in other words, the agg of 2.25,2.00,2.30,and 2.10=8.65 not the 2.162 we would use in BR.
CW

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

Aggregate

• accumulated
• combined
• corporate
• cumulative
• added
• amassed
• assembled
• collected
• collective
• composite
• heaped
• mixed
• piled
• total

 

[Mulligan]

Aggregate or average
Tomato or tomAto
Potato or potatoe

Josh, the meanings are completely different.
CW

 

[joshb]

Josh, the meanings are completely different.
CW

Thank you for that. I had always assumed it was used for “average”. I learned something, today. I don’t compete and I’ve never attended a formal match.

 

[Mulligan]

Thank you for that. I had always assumed it was used for “average”. I learned something, today. I don’t compete and I’ve never attended a formal match.

I believe your assumption is correct.
Everyone uses it for average, however it does not mean average.
I am hoping someone comes along and explains why we use it that way.
Clay

 

[tmwinds]

Aggregate is the totals of the group sizes or scores on the targets. Average is the total of the groups or scores divided by the targets. Score shooters just add the numbers to determine a winner. Group shooters are weird, they measure a hole to determine a winner.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

AND its in moa so divide the 200 by 2 then compile them all. Aggregate not average

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Score or group? Lol! Seriously, scores are added and groups are averaged.

 

[Uthink Uknow]

“It doesn’t have to make sense. Do as you’re told”. Sister Marian 1954

 

[dcali]

Aggregate in the sense of the results of multiple matches, not in the sense of average group size. The matches are “added”, not the scores. It probably comes from other disicplines where scores are literally added, which would also work in BR if they wanted to do it that way. Average is just the total divided by the number of shots, and the number of shots is the same for everyone.

 

[butchlambert]

I think you guys need to get off the keyboard and go to the range.

 

[jobhopper66]

I believe Mr. Lambert hit the nail right on the head!!!

 

[Bbear]

sounds like the guys that brag on their 3 shot groups rather than 5 or 10 or 20 shot groups.

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

So, if I shoot 6 groups of 5 shots, I score each group and then divide by the number of groups and get the average. I then shoot 5 separate targets consisting 6 groups each. Taking the scores of each of the 5 targets and adding them together gives me the aggregate. Correct or not?

 

[Bc'z]

Aggregate is rocks jeez!
And I've been digging them up all day.

 

[Mulligan]

So, if I shoot 6 groups of 5 shots, I score each group and then divide by the number of groups and get the average. I then shoot 5 separate targets consisting 6 groups each. Taking the scores of each of the 5 targets and adding them together gives me the aggregate. Correct or not?

Correct

 

[Mulligan]

So, if I shoot 6 groups of 5 shots, I score each group and then divide by the number of groups and get the average. I then shoot 5 separate targets consisting 6 groups each. Taking the scores of each of the 5 targets and adding them together gives me the aggregate. Correct or not?

To confuse the issue more, in long range benchrest each target is measured for group size and it is scored. After four targets are shot the scores are all added together for the score agg and the groups are all averaged and called an agg when they are an average.
CW