ADG Annealer

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The ADG annealer looks like an interesting tool. Who has their hands on one so far? How does it compare to the other annealers on the market? This could be good competition for the AMP.

 

[Fire Dog]

The ADG annealer looks like an interesting tool. Who has their hands on one so far? How does it compare to the other annealers on the market? This could be good competition for the AMP.

Here is a Utube video from the 2025 Shot Show…
Just looks to be too fiddly and they talk about having to develop annealing settings for you to use {Like AMP did in the early days where you sent them 6 cases to test and they sent you the test results minus your brass…}
I envision a learning curve for this machine that seems to be an adaption of some sort of industrial tempering and annealing machine that has broad application in manufacturing.
I certainly do not see myself selling off my AMP anytime soon as it is an easy “Plug & Play machine that gets it right every time with the loss of one case.

 

[Straightshooter1]

The ADG annealer looks like an interesting tool. Who has their hands on one so far? How does it compare to the other annealers on the market? This could be good competition for the AMP.

It appears to be a pretty nice machine! $2,000 (to include tax) is a bit steep. Though they might be had for a little less.

It's nice that one can set the temperature all the way up to the melting point of brass. So, one can certainly set the machine to the ideal annealing temperature of ~ 650°C and get consistent results.

Attached here is the User Manual:

 

[Fire Dog]

It appears to be a pretty nice machine! $2,000 (to include tax) is a bit steep. Though they might be had for a little less.

It's nice that one can set the temperature all the way up to the melting point of brass. So, one can certainly set the machine to the ideal annealing temperature of ~ 650°C and get consistent results.

Attached here is the User Manual:

After reading the manual, YEP!
Fiddly, complex learning curve…
I defiantly will stick with my AMP… Just use the correct pilot, enter the AZTEC code the machine has determined and roll through the cases.

 

[LVLAaron]

Disclaimer; I own and love my AMP.

However, I really really really like the hopper feeder on the ADG. The AMP solution is a science experiment.

 

[TylerFromMS]

Have had my hands on it. As soon as I get my hands on one permanently I’m selling my AMP. I can’t do it any more.

 

[Straightshooter1]

After reading the manual, YEP!
Fiddly, complex learning curve…
I defiantly will stick with my AMP… Just use the correct pilot, enter the AZTEC code the machine has determined and roll through the cases.

Yup, the AMP machine is an "easy button" in my book. . . except for the hand feeding and giving up a case when finding the right AZTEC code.

I'm sticking to my Annealeez!

 

[Fire Dog]

Yup, the AMP machine is an "easy button" in my book. . . except for the hand feeding and giving up a case when finding the right AZTEC code.

I'm sticking to my Annealeez!

AMP does make a case feeder if you are really doing volumes…

Automatic Case Annealer AMP MATE Annealing Made Perfect

Go hands free! Perfect for large quantities of brass and leaves you able to work on other tasks. The AMP MATE sits on top of the annealer with and connects to it via the USB cable.(Note: When annealing 6BR/BRA cases with the AMP Mate, use Pilot #64 and, with that pilot inserted, for 6BR us...

shop.ampannealing.com

 

[muleystalker]

Yup, the AMP machine is an "easy button" in my book. . . except for the hand feeding and giving up a case when finding the right AZTEC code.

I'm sticking to my Annealeez!

You don't have to use the AZTEC mode, they have a library of settings for all kinds of brands and in many cases specific lots of brass and even brass with necks turned in some cases.

 

[PatMiles]

Yup, the AMP machine is an "easy button" in my book. . . except for the hand feeding and giving up a case when finding the right AZTEC code.

I'm sticking to my Annealeez!

You don't have to use the AZTEC mode, they have a library of settings for all kinds of brands and in many cases specific lots of brass and even brass with necks turned in some cases.

"Easy button!!" Click this link for AMP codes.

Induction Annealing Machine | Settings | AMP

To ensure the best possible results using the AMP Annealing machine we have creating a Settings Tool that will provided the most appropriate settings for your brass. We can only test and calibrate brass on hand so if you would like to contribute please see the Contributor Form for details...

www.ampannealing.com

 

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Disclaimer; I own and love my AMP.

However, I really really really like the hopper feeder on the ADG. The AMP solution is a science experiment.

100% what has me looking at the ADG. I shoot multiple cartridges and hate standing in front of a machine.

 

[Fire Dog]

"Easy button!!" Click this link for AMP codes.

Induction Annealing Machine | Settings | AMP

To ensure the best possible results using the AMP Annealing machine we have creating a Settings Tool that will provided the most appropriate settings for your brass. We can only test and calibrate brass on hand so if you would like to contribute please see the Contributor Form for details...

www.ampannealing.com

Yes, I have them all printed out and in a folder to save time for annealing the ordinary stuff but still prefer the Aztec code for the good stuff as that is specific to that lot of brass.

 

[muleystalker]

Yes, I have them all printed out and in a folder to save time for annealing the ordinary stuff but still prefer the Aztec code for the good stuff as that is specific to that lot of brass.

Then there is that, you want it for the good stuff.... nothing good comes free. The ADG you have no idea how or what it is doing, the setup is no different than setting up an annealer using a torch, you are going by the color of the glow of the brass. At least thats the way I am understanding it, the machine doesn't analyze what's going on with the brass. Unless I missed something.. and thats possible.

 

[acssa]

Then there is that, you want it for the good stuff.... nothing good comes free. The ADG you have no idea how or what it is doing, the setup is no different than setting up an annealer using a torch, you are going by the color of the glow of the brass. At least thats the way I am understanding it, the machine doesn't analyze what's going on with the brass. Unless I missed something.. and thats possible.

Seems you missed alot.

 

[TylerFromMS]

I got my annealer and have taken it through some paces. ADG loads it up with some programs for the cases they make as well as a few others. You can make adjustments to how hard you want it to anneal after the case type is selected- useful for us that would use the AZTEC code as a baseline and adjust from there. It will also anneal properly with mixed brass- I tossed some Norma in with some ADG just to see what it did and it never had a hickup- it automatically adjusted and annealed properly. The only way you could tell it had annealed another piece was by how long it annealed for on the readout. It essentially custom anneals each piece. You don't have to worry about different pilots for different cases- according to which caliber/case you select, it automatically adjusts the height of the tray where the brass sits.

you are going by the color of the glow of the brass

That seems to be correct. I tested with tempilaq and the annealing number (MHT) initially placed was adequate for the 750 temp. It seems like the AMP does it based on where the brass gives out and spits out a number from there. I will say that with the way I process brass, the AZTEC code and the MHT of 325 is equal as best as I can tell through seating pressure. I can't say if it is as "correct" as the AMP solution, but I've been beaten a lot by guys that do the old school "barely glow" with a flame annealer. This one anneals on a case-by-case basis, and the MHT number is generally within 2-3 of the target (I had to go up on that by 10 to change the seating pressure)

I love(d) my AMP- I sold it to fund this when it got here and I tested some and found it to be equal as far as the actual annealing was concerned. I think that the case feeding and dropping is a good design and didn't seem like it was just sort of shoehorned in after the fact. I've seen Annie annealers set up similarly, but I don't have the knowledge or skill to pull that off. If I was doing 20-50 at a time, I wouldn't see a need to change from the AMP if you don't mind sitting there a minute. When you start getting up to 100+, I think the ADG really starts to shine.

I'm having a cover made for it that will hopefully be here soon. I honestly thought it would be super complicated, but its pretty much a plug and play. Put brass in the hopper, select your case, hit the start button.

 

[Straightshooter1]

I got my annealer and have taken it through some paces. ADG loads it up with some programs for the cases they make as well as a few others. You can make adjustments to how hard you want it to anneal after the case type is selected- useful for us that would use the AZTEC code as a baseline and adjust from there. It will also anneal properly with mixed brass- I tossed some Norma in with some ADG just to see what it did and it never had a hickup- it automatically adjusted and annealed properly. The only way you could tell it had annealed another piece was by how long it annealed for on the readout. It essentially custom anneals each piece. You don't have to worry about different pilots for different cases- according to which caliber/case you select, it automatically adjusts the height of the tray where the brass sits.

That seems to be correct. I tested with tempilaq and the annealing number (MHT) initially placed was adequate for the 750 temp. It seems like the AMP does it based on where the brass gives out and spits out a number from there. I will say that with the way I process brass, the AZTEC code and the MHT of 325 is equal as best as I can tell through seating pressure. I can't say if it is as "correct" as the AMP solution, but I've been beaten a lot by guys that do the old school "barely glow" with a flame annealer. This one anneals on a case-by-case basis, and the MHT number is generally within 2-3 of the target (I had to go up on that by 10 to change the seating pressure)

I love(d) my AMP- I sold it to fund this when it got here and I tested some and found it to be equal as far as the actual annealing was concerned. I think that the case feeding and dropping is a good design and didn't seem like it was just sort of shoehorned in after the fact. I've seen Annie annealers set up similarly, but I don't have the knowledge or skill to pull that off. If I was doing 20-50 at a time, I wouldn't see a need to change from the AMP if you don't mind sitting there a minute. When you start getting up to 100+, I think the ADG really starts to shine.

I'm having a cover made for it that will hopefully be here soon. I honestly thought it would be super complicated, but its pretty much a plug and play. Put brass in the hopper, select your case, hit the start button.

In so many ways, I think (IMHO, as I'm not easily impressed about things) this machine is the best case annealing machine on the market! If I was annealing several different case types/brands and did a lot of shooting of them, the price is well worth it.

For anyone reading tests and overviews of this machine should note that the MHT number is not to be confuse with degrees in Celsius or Fahrenheit. But for ease of use, the numbers can be thought of as a form of temperature measurement (e.g Measurement of Heat Temperature) when using this machine. The MHT is really nothing more that a reference reference at each sensor. Looking at ADG's video, I can see they used a very good hardness testing machine (Wilson VH3100) to determine what those MHT numbers produce for a good anneal.