Adding F-Open Rails, please show yours

[Budget_Sniper]

Looking at having my Smith bed some rails into a stock to ride the front rest a little better than a flat forend. I recently purchased this rig and I don't want to mill out where the anschutz rail is. Have you guys done this successfully? Please share pics and any lessons learned! Last pic is something I found along the way.

 

[ShootDots]

You need to get hold of John Farraggio on here>>>>he is Cognac Jack. Write him a P.M. and get with him>>>he had done quite a few and is very good at it..

 

[Bc'z]

@Field & Cave bag rider's.
Epoxy screw in anchors in place after drilling. Bumps forend to 4"

 

[tac284]

Also have installed the field & cave rails. Good product.

 

[MattPeetz]

4” is to wide for F Class.
3” max

 

[Bc'z]

4” is to wide for F Class.
3” max

Pesky little details. Lol
I like the thin runners that look like they are epoxies on in the OP's bottom photo.

 

[Budget_Sniper]

Thanks guys, MattPeetz is right, I already have a 3" forend so whatever I add will have to stay within that width. I do kinda like the idea of milling a recess for those rails to sit flush, but turned around, so that the side facing the stock in the pics is actually milled smooth and rides the uprights on the rest? Thinking this should be fairly easy to accomplish.

 

[MattPeetz]

Get a hold of Dan Bramley.
I believe he makes some

 

[Olde Man]

My experience is that polished aluminum is sticky in the bags. Has anybody used hard anodized or other coating on a homemade rail or rudder? Does it help? Cost to coat? Does the front bag conform to the rails negating the gains after if is settled. Wouldn't there be a small void where the transition from rail to stock takes place? I am not trying to be antagonistic just looking for answers before I make this modification.

 

[BradY]

I added rails to a stock once. Went the other way- didn’t polish them. Instead gave them
a light coarse sand and believe it was better. If the stock is already 3 inches then why not mill out in between the edges to create rails?

 

[Budget_Sniper]

I added rails to a stock once. Went the other way- didn’t polish them. Instead gave them
a light coarse sand and believe it was better. If the stock is already 3 inches then why not mill out in between the edges to create rails?

Valid question... If it was a plain wood stock, I would. In my case I have 2 reasons. 1. I bought the stock second hand, it has an anschutz rail installed for FTR, so I don't want to mess that up and 2. My understanding is that you don't want to mill into a kelbly stock, as they are not solid in some spots and have filler material (and weighting material) here and there.

 

[Bc'z]

Valid question... If it was a plain wood stock, I would. In my case I have 2 reasons. 1. I bought the stock second hand, it has an anschutz rail installed for FTR, so I don't want to mess that up and 2. My understanding is that you don't want to mill into a kelbly stock, as they are not solid in some spots and have filler material (and weighting material) here and there.

So does McMillan

 

[Walt Krafft]

Why not make a fork like the Kestros ZR and clamp it to the stock using the rail that is already there?

 

[Budget_Sniper]

Why not make a fork like the Kestros ZR and clamp it to the stock using the rail that is already there?

Well, I think it would raise the profile/COG more than I want to, and I want whatever I go with to be solid to the stock, not the rail. I'm leaning more toward the "skis" on the wood stock in my 3rd pic. I like the rails on tac284's rig, but I can't go wider and don't want to go much taller.

 

[johara1]

Why not use Delrin strips. they have more lubricity ..... use double stick carpet tape plus a counter sunk screw with an insert at each end..... jim

 

[boltman13]

The Urbanrifleman sells railed bag riders. They fit on a Pick. rail which you should be able to get to fit your Anschutz rail. It does raise the height of your rifle a little and torque effect increases as a result. My 6.5 Creedmoor F-Open rifle rides the bag very well with no excess torque. Not very expensive and reversable if you want.

 

[Retired Grunt]

The Urbanrifleman sells railed bag riders. They fit on a Pick. rail which you should be able to get to fit your Anschutz rail. It does raise the height of your rifle a little and torque effect increases as a result. My 6.5 Creedmoor F-Open rifle rides the bag very well with no excess torque. Not very expensive and reversable if you want.

That's the route I went, the bag rider was my cure.

 

[Budget_Sniper]

Why not use Delrin strips. they have more lubricity ..... use double stick carpet tape plus a counter sunk screw with an insert at each end..... jim

Now that's an idea... there are a number of self- lubricating plastics I haven't considered. Good suggestion, I'll look into it.

 

[Budget_Sniper]

The Urbanrifleman sells railed bag riders. They fit on a Pick. rail which you should be able to get to fit your Anschutz rail. It does raise the height of your rifle a little and torque effect increases as a result. My 6.5 Creedmoor F-Open rifle rides the bag very well with no excess torque. Not very expensive and reversable if you want.

If I had an f-tr I was looking to run f-open, I'd definitely consider this. Actually, Sinclair makes a much better bag rider for an "A" rail and they aren't bad. I have a delrin rider from ECW and I actually bought and returned the one from UR because it was 3-d printed and frankly not the quality I was looking. Honestly, though, it'd be pretty silly to have a kelbly M1 stock and put a bag rider on it. I'm looking hard skis of some kind.

 

[Seagull]

I made these to go onto an open rifle but it's a timber stock will have Ali cross pillars in it aswell s o gen it doesn't crush the timber stock