Action what one?

[Shooter13]

I want to build a new long range rifle, looking at 6.5x284 or a 284, what is your recommendation on an action? If you make a recommendation please tell me why you choose that one, it might be more fun to say "other than what you own!", I know there will be several different answers but I'll also do my homework too. Thanks and "fire" away. TIA

 

[Bart B.]

If you use a conventional stock, reload and want a reliable box magazine action, as well as one with a good accuracy track record, get a Winchester 70. They're good as single shot use, too.

 

[Scott Harris]

I want to build a new long range rifle, looking at 6.5x284 or a 284, what is your recommendation on an action? If you make a recommendation please tell me why you choose that one, it might be more fun to say "other than what you own!", I know there will be several different answers but I'll also do my homework too. Thanks and "fire" away. TIA

Defiance Deviant.
Fits all Remington parts: stocks, triggers, etc.
Best accuracy
integral rail and recoil lug
One piece bolt: no soldered handles here.
customizeable
superb ignition
Best People: you won't find better. Norm, Mike, Glenn are a pleasure to talk to and work with.
Glenn Harrison invented the custom action industry many years ago: knows more than just about anyone on what makes a great action. If you have a problem, he can fix it.
They are based in Montana.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

What type of shooting? What kind of stock?

 

[Shooter13]

What type of shooting? What kind of stock?

Shooting will be mostly bench, stock to be determined!

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Well it matters because there are very few stocks that fit a square tang action. If you want a hunting or tactical type stock the action needs to have a Remington tang for the most part. If your doing a Benchrest type stock I can recommend a square tang.

 

[swd]

Borden makes a really smooth, well timed action in either square or Remington type tangs. Like Alex said you need to make a decision there, it greatly affects your stock choice. Also if we know what your using it for it would help. Long range shooting is pretty open and subjective. Hunting, plinking, need a repeater? steel, F Class, bench rest competition etc..

 

[retired]

alright that just pegged you as a source of limited knowledge.

If you use a conventional stock, reload and want a reliable box magazine action, as well as one with a good accuracy track record, get a Winchester 70. They're good as single shot use, too.

 

[284winner]

Tough to beat the Remington footprint variants. Even a trued Remington action is a sound action. As said tho depends on your shooting discipline. Lots of stock options for it as well.

 

[Bart B.]

alright that just pegged you as a source of limited knowledge.

... and that just pegged you as a source of some ignorance.

A limited amount of the best knowledge is better than a lot of average stuff.

I know stuff that you don't. You don't seem willing to learn something.

 

[steve123]

I want to build a new long range rifle, looking at 6.5x284 or a 284, what is your recommendation on an action? If you make a recommendation please tell me why you choose that one, it might be more fun to say "other than what you own!", I know there will be several different answers but I'll also do my homework too. Thanks and "fire" away. TIA

My experience with 6.5-284 was short lived, by 800 rounds I had the barrel set back and 400 rounds later it wasn't but a 1 moa barrel, so I never built one again.

284, although I've only read on it seems like a great choice for a good number of reasons.

I went to 6.5 Saum with a light load and get 3175 fps with 140's. I'll probably get 2000 rounds out of it. I know George Gardner won the Bushnell Brawl with a barrel with one set back on it at 4000 rounds.

For a repeater, I highly recommend the ARC Mausingfield action. Research it, it's the most innovative bolt action I've come across. It feeds so well that sometimes I question if a round went into the chamber.

 

[6MMsteve]

I never used one but if I was spending hard earned money it would be a Borden, they just look good to me and they are suppose to be top notch

 

[Bart B.]

Tough to beat the Remington footprint variants. Even a trued Remington action is a sound action.

The Winnie is near 3 times as stiff as the Remmie. Measure both and you'll see.

 

[284winner]

The Winnie if near 3 times as stiff as the Remmie. Measure both and you'll see.

I'm no gunsmith and certainly no expert on either action but just how much stiffer does the Remington action need to be. I think if it was just twice as stiff, it wouldn't be any more accurate let alone three times. My suggestion was based on accessibility of stocks, prefit barrels, bases etc. Remington certainly offers many more options of all of those as well. Availability especially for Remington actions here on this forum is pretty regular also.

 

[Shooter13]

The Winnie is near 3 times as stiff as the Remmie. Measure both and you'll see.

But I doubt that is true for the variants

 

[Bart B.]

I'm no gunsmith and certainly no expert on either action but just how much stiffer does the Remington action need to be. I think if it was just twice as stiff, it wouldn't be any more accurate let alone three times.

I mentioned stiff stuff as it's a popular belief that stiffer ones flex less and promotes better accuracy.

Few, if any, on this forum remember (or are aware of) the problems Remington round receivers twisting loose in epoxy bedding from barrel torque with heavier bullets starting at 160 grains. Rebedding every few hundred rounds was the norm. Winchester one's flat surfaces prevented that. As did flat surfaced aluminum sleeves on Remington 7XX receivers

 

[retired]

things to ponder how many 700 actions do you see in competition ?
i stated with one and then moved to better quality.
tinker toy rifles will not keep up with a true custom rifle.

I'm no gunsmith and certainly no expert on either action but just how much stiffer does the Remington action need to be. I think if it was just twice as stiff, it wouldn't be any more accurate let alone three times. My suggestion was based on accessibility of stocks, prefit barrels, bases etc. Remington certainly offers many more options of all of those as well. Availability especially for Remington actions here on this forum is pretty regular also.

 

[LHSmith]

If you use a conventional stock, reload and want a reliable box magazine action, as well as one with a good accuracy track record, get a Winchester 70. They're good as single shot use, too.

The OP said for shooting from the bench. I KNOW NOBODY uses a Win. for short range BR registered comp. I just spent several minutes reviewing the IBS LR match results and that confirmed my initial thoughts.....extremely rare to see a Win. in registered LR BR comp. for a host of reasons, one of the biggest being lack of a decent trigger, yet quite a few Remingtons that managed to stay glued (glued and screw is the norm).

 

[swd]

I still see a few M70's on High Power Sling rifles. They shoot as well as anything in that discipline but the ultimate in accuracy isn't necessary there. If the rifle holds half MOA it's gtg.

 

[284winner]

things to ponder how many 700 actions do you see in competition ?
i stated with one and then moved to better quality.
tinker toy rifles will not keep up with a true custom rifle.

Matter of opinion not fact. Again, depending on it's use would determine fact or fiction in that statement. Maybe an all out competition rifle but a hunting/ tactical all around rifle, the 700 action will keep up with any action out there.