Accurizing .22RF ?s
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That something to ask Dawn Killough about, I have no knowledge of the ARA factory rules.
Both the CZ's I used were Military Trainers, hog back stocks, pencil barrels. I would think the American would be a better choice, heavier barrel, the stock more conducive to using a rest. I never had a American, so I really have no idea. The only rules we had, they had to be all factory, 12X scope, have a magazine and the muzzle had to be no larger in diameter than a dime. Still, I would only be looking for the early models.
This is what mine looks like.
This is the 452 American
No it was never checked as its a violation to change that dimension per ARA rules in the factory class.
CharlieNC
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Admittingly I don't know those rules, but it would seem you could measure the HS to know if it is an issue even if you can't correct it???
ARA rule Book PDF
section 8 covers allowed modifications for factory rifles
ARA Factory Approved Rifles
I used a 452 American for the first year and a half and just last match switched to a wood stocked non MTR Varmint. Six of one, half dozen of the other. The biggest difference I have seen in factory CZ's in competition is who is pulling the trigger and what ammo is being shot. Just about any SK or Lapua does well as a general rule
section 8 covers allowed modifications for factory rifles
ARA Factory Approved Rifles
I used a 452 American for the first year and a half and just last match switched to a wood stocked non MTR Varmint. Six of one, half dozen of the other. The biggest difference I have seen in factory CZ's in competition is who is pulling the trigger and what ammo is being shot. Just about any SK or Lapua does well as a general rule
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How does the scope make the rifle more accurate?
More power, aim small miss small
reticles make difference such as a target dot and fine crosshair for benchrest vs heavy or duplex for hunting vs "Christmas tree" for PRS
example I experienced recently was an AR I was using in NRA prone, could not get consistent test groupings below 1 MOA when load developing. The scope I was using had a thick crosshair and 12X magnification. That was ok for "quartering" a 36 x 36 target at 600 yards and trying to keep all shots in a 12 inch 10 ring but sucked at aiming at a 1 inch dot at 100. I swapped it for a PRS style scope to use just for the load development which had a Christmas tree reticle and twice the magnification. That 1.25 MOA group instantly became a .5 MOA load
I read through the replies, Looks like you have been working pretty hard to do everything that you need to get you to where your at right now and that is 2450. THE next step is exactly what your not wanting to do, and thats getting a case of ammo that shoots the smallest groups in that rifle. You can do everything within your power, But if you are not willing to go the next step in finding a smaller grouping ammo.. You will stay right where you are at.
I shoot against some local guys who are National Champions. I know my skill level is about or close to what they can do. I am also not willing to send my two RIfles to the test center for ammo. So i understand your decision , I have several cases of Eley 10X that shoot Good... or Good enough. However i know for a fact that those two guys have rifles that shoot much smaller groups than my combination.
Last year I was shooting an ARA match with a Bushnell 6-24 Match Pro. This was the brightest, clearest, sharpest optic I have ever looked through and I was over the moon happy with it ... UNTIL ... I shot a perfectly centered X then came off the rifle to single load, then shot the same bull AGAIN because the scope's lower magnification and LARGE center dot covered the X, which I couldn't see. That error netted me a zero for that square. Next match I had a Sightron 36X with a thin cross hairs and an itty bitty target dot. I've never made that mistake since, knock on wood.
Excellent advice @Rtheurer. I can afford to go down the Test Center rabbit hole and buy a case of ammo but I am not sure I really want to do that just yet however, I am not totally ruling that option out.
That target is AWESOME. I'd frame that baby.If I were you, work with the CZ At-one, although I would want a 24" barrel, but that is what you have. Try different holds on your rifle, these light rifles usually don't do well trying to shoot free recoil, mine I would the top of the stock while pinching the trigger. If your shooting using the magazine, try loading one at a time without it. Then try different ammos. Mine liked Eley match, there is almost always plenty for sale over on RFC at reasonable prices. Last suggestion, find a older CZ 452. The way to tell is, either no letter prefix or a A prefix. I don't know what the difference was after B and C models came out, but there is an accuracy difference. JMO
Best target I ever shot with the older CZ outside 50 yards 12X scope.
I took your advice @MrG52D and found a brand new, never shot, in the box 452 Lux with a serial number prefix of A. I've read a lot of positive comments on these older models and have never tried one so what do I have to lose except safe space?
The old adage, you have to "pay to play" is much more evident in .22RF competition than CF shooting, as you are literally at the mercy of your ammo! So, most likely, your next rung on the ladder is going to hurt the wallet! Good luck.
Paul
Paul
If your cross hairs cover 2 min, you can't shoot 1 min.
jepp2
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That is a great attitude!
WyleWD
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+1^^ I have the 452 Lux like the one you have pictured above. Love that thing. The one I have is accurate above its price point. Squirrel hate that thing.That something to ask Dawn Killough about, I have no knowledge of the ARA factory rules.
Both the CZ's I used were Military Trainers, hog back stocks, pencil barrels. I would think the American would be a better choice, heavier barrel, the stock more conducive to using a rest. I never had a American, so I really have no idea. The only rules we had, they had to be all factory, 12X scope, have a magazine and the muzzle had to be no larger in diameter than a dime. Still, I would only be looking for the early models.
This is what mine looks like.
This is the 452 American
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