I think something like this is what your looking for. This is mine from the 6x5 on the Snipers hide. There aren't too many 10/22s in the top spots. And it's not because guys are scared to put money in them!
Accurize my hunting 22lr
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I think something like this is what your looking for. This is mine from the 6x5 on the Snipers hide. There aren't too many 10/22s in the top spots. And it's not because guys are scared to put money in them!
I think something like this is what your looking for. This is mine from the 6x5 on the Snipers hide. There aren't too many 10/22s in the top spots. And it's not because guys are scared to put money in them!
Please learn to measure groups, because those are'nt close.
A .267" , for instance, would have 2 holes virtually touching, not more than a bullet diameter between them. Your .098" is a mid.200"
Out side to out side less one bullet diameter. Larry
Nice group 10/22AppleCreekShooter. I have a Kidd 20" barrel on my Olympic Arms 10-22 look alike but without a barrel tuner.
I put the calipers around one hole and zero them. Then measure outside to outside edge. That's how the rules of that competition are set up. I left the .098 group zeroed at zero so there was not discrepancy. I'm sorry if my picture offends you I was just trying to show a cherry picked groups was not what he was looking for.
Again, not bad shooting at all, but not quite what I was looking for.
When I fist saw the target on my tablet, I thought "this guys nailed it", but on closer inspection I see they are 50 yard groups.
The way I see it is - If you shoot enough groups, you occasionally get a blinder, we've all had them and they're great to stick on the wall, but they don't begin to tell the whole story.
When I see statements like:
My original 10/22 would do 1/2" groups at 50 all day long with about anything you fed it and true 1/2" at 100 with the right ammo.
This infers that it might happen on a fairly regular basis, not one in ten, if I discount the odd flyer, the cold bore shot and the one I pulled.
There may be many fairly inexperienced, young or new shooters reading these posts and, equipped with their shiny new 10/22 are bitterly disappointed when they can't begin to get even close to matching these sort of groups.
With .22LR shooting, there's a great deal of difference between 50 and 100 yards. A .5 moa group at 50 yards can rarely be extrapolated to produce a 1 moa at 100yds.
If we look at this carefully conducted test of .22lr ammunition, we begin to see the truth of it.
This test was conducted under controlled conditions with a $3000 match rifle, barrel tuner, high mag scope, tunnel range, solid bench and rests and an experienced BR shooter.
TEST RESULTS
The very best that could be achieved was around 1/2 inch at 100 yards with the very best match ammunition suited to the rifle.
So - What about a "Without photos it didn't happen" policy
"All day long" should mean, say, three consecutive groups on the same sheet of paper. A "group" should consist of 5 shots, and all shots on the paper count, including called pull shots and flyers.Surely three such groups : 1" at 100 yards isn't too much to ask is it?
Then that's certainly a good example Geno - These groups need to be shown as a series "Warts an' all" if we're talking representative groups.
Things like ammunition type, exact range, number of shots, weather conditions, rifle, scope, sand bags, bi-pod etc. should all be included as useful information.
If it's just a single group - fine, we love to see them but it should be made clear that's what it is.
I absolutely agree! I know I poured a lot of money into a 10/22 trying to get it to shoot like guys said theirs would and I never got there and couldn't figure out why. It was because our standards were different. If I say 1/2" all day. Then the biggest group would have to be half inch. 1/2" gun would average 1/2" and so on. Over the Internet On Target helps with consistency too. (I should get it obviously)
For the record the gun that shot that series was a Sako quad with a rock creek barrel. Sits in a manners T4 stock and wears a Nxs 5.5-22. Ammo was weight sorted SK standard+ I'm pretty sure.
Thanks Doc. I got 4 Kidd barrel 10/22's and 3 GM barrel 10/22's which 2 of them I gave to my son now. They all shoot. The Kidd barrels are slightly more accurate. I will show you guys some more if I can. This gun I got about $1300 in it. But it will shoot in the .1's at 50yds. Let me show you some more. 
That was this one. With SK Pistol Match on tuner 186 it would be hard for even a Anshutz 54 to top it.To my knowledge, that .333 5 shot group at 100yds may be one of the smallest ever shot with a 10/22 at 100yds. Did you notice on the 2 consecutive 5 shot groups I posted above that on every shot on 10 shots in a row I hit the 1" sticker at 100yds. That is extremely hard to do. I think this gun may even top the .333. Let me show you why I say that. Had this 1 shot went with other you would be looking at a group around .210ctc. That is showing just how accurate this gun really is. 
On that .333ctc 5 shot group at 100yds, a dime will easily cover it.Two things that must be done in order to shoot great groups with a match tuned 22 rim fire is, having already learned follow through, and great wind reading skills and of course some luck involved.
Well having good ammo and knowing how to shoot is crucial.
No offence, you're not the only one requiring remedial measurement training.
Put the caliper away.
A group showing space between 2 holes.....as in that, between 5 oclock and 10 oclock, cannot, by defination, measure less than one bullet diameter.
Now, you migh be a master of the caliper, but I'll go with my 30 years experience in registered BR shooting.
I need remedial training? In your 30 years measuring groups did they ever tell you what size the bullet hole is that a rimfire leaves?
I will not get into a negative discussion with you however. I appreciate your experience and vast input of knowledge to this site.
I have a marlin 25N I think I paid $169.00 for it 20 years ago. camo painted wood stock. I lightened the trigger. reset the action in the stock to my liking and tightened the screws. Under good conditions in cold weather with a clean barrel it would shoot 1/4" 5 shot groups at 50 Yards..yep 5 shots that measured .250 as measured at a BR match. with Federal Gold Medal classic Match ammo. I had done it so many times I got bored with it. I started shooting them little metal chicken silhouette's at 100 Yards just using hold over and wind dope I actually got quite good at hitting them. I still have the rifle But I don't think it shoots that well anymore but it will cut 5 shots at 25 Yards still..Micro groove barrel. Yea it is not quite a nice rifle as I would consider,such as a win52. rem 547, cooper ect. But they do shoot.
And as you all know 5 shots that measure .250 looks like one small ragged hole.
And as you all know 5 shots that measure .250 looks like one small ragged hole.
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Actually no.....that part was learned from about the same time shooting competitive rimfire BR.
Now instead of a snappy retort.....think for a minute. A group CANNOT be less than a single bullet hole if there is space between two holes. That is simple physics, no more, no less.
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