O'Connor was a good writer and hunter. He hunted in a time when he was fortunate enough to hunt many places for extended lengths of time. His style of hunting dictated light rifles and he championed the Classic style of stock. Competition between writers was keen. Page and Carmichael were competition shooters as well as hunters. I could be wrong but I don't think Jim Carmichael ever expected his big game rifles to shoot sub MOA at distance. He was a good gunsmith , writer and a great hunter as well as competitor.