OK, Not one of my prouder moments. I have an AR I built in 20P, getting ready for a P-Dawg shoot, kind in a hurry to try to make sure I had a good zero, I loaded in a round, first time fired, formed from a 223 Rem, sized down with Redding Bushing die, .225" final step. I could see there was some neck not completely sized down but we went for it anyway. Dropped the bolt release, squeezed, and click. I guess the lower part of the neck that the bushing couldn't reach stopped us from complete chambering. Had to get a mallet and a wood block to get the bolt back open and it took a piece of the rim off. Then I have the great idea to grab an old 17 cal cleaning rod (carbon) and pound it from the muzzle. It had some of the threaded brass left on the end, so I hammered it until it broke off even with the muzzle. So I made a bore guide out of a 17 Rem case, drilled a little and used a fine threaded sheet rock screw and got the rod out. Shook the power out and that is where we are now. Should I cut a 17 SS cleaning rod off a couple inches longer than needed, maybe wrap in vinyl tape or at least masking tape and try hammering it out with that or sent it off to a smith??? Any ideas? I am guessing a smith will drill out the primer, thread it and try to pull it out like it were stuck in a sizing die.
A round stuck in an AR15 chamber
- Thread starter remy3424
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Sounds like you're borderline new barrel... Hydraulic won't work unless you plug the gas port too. I'd think that removing the barrel from the upper might get you better access to the case; followed by removing the barrel extension, though that alone may be a challenge.
-Mac
-Mac
Sound like it is the same process as hydro forming a case . Fill the barrel with grease and use a tigh fitting rod and hit it with a hammer . lol Larry
Fast14riot
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Pull the barrel. But for future reference, I always size in a gutted .223 die first to be sure the shoulder gets bumped far enough to start, then size down to .226.
3/32 steel rod might be able to pound it out if you lightly warm the barrel first (after killing the primer with oil).
Good luck.
3/32 steel rod might be able to pound it out if you lightly warm the barrel first (after killing the primer with oil).
Good luck.
I may not understand the situation fully, can you get the BCG out ? Can you use a knife or screw driver through the ejection port to push the casing back and out ?
A good grease gun will only put 15,000 psi guess that isn't enough . lol Larry
Fast14riot
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If the extractor ripped a piece of the rim off, I doubt a screwdriver will get it to move. The case wedged into the chamber because the case wasn't necked down enough.
Standard protocol for stuck rounds in an AR is to pull hard on the charging handle then smack the butt on a bench, usually works after a couple tries. I had a steel case stick in a "lead hose" carbine one time, that was a Bitch to get out!
Take the barrel off the upper, kill the primer, Drill and tap case 1/4-20 like a case stuck in a die. With a 1/4-20 bolt and a washer large enough to span the barrel extension, screw the bolt in until it pulls the case out. You might want to use a brass washer or neoprene under a steel washer to prevent scratches to the extension
Chuck the stripped barrel in a lathe. Use a brass rod slightly longer than the barrel..and use the lathe tailstock to PUSH the case out.
hogpatrol
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Redding bushing dies don't size the entire neck. When I initially form the 20P, my last operation is a Redding neck only sizing die used with a shellholder that's had the deck height reduced enough to form the entire neck down to the shoulder. Only need to do this once. After the first firing, just use a regular S die with your finish size bushing. It won't size all the way but will still chamber properly in an AR or bolt rifle. The stuck round? The description of the problem is somewhat confusing but barrel removal seems to be the best option.
Thanks, good info. Like the lathe plan, but no lathe available, the grease option sounds good but the barrel isn't threaded. I think the route that I will have to try is threading the case and pulled it like a case stuck in a die. I just hope my tap will reach with the barrel extension. I think I will have to run these into a 20 cal die...what cartridge is the neck sizer you use hogpatrol? A 223 bushing type neck only sizer?
While your thinking about what to do, spray some penetrating oil down the barrel and some around the back of the stuck case.
I would full length size the cases so they will feed trouble free and don't seat the bullets into the rifle lands. You don't want your gun to jam or dump powder when your in middle a dog town out in the middle of nowhere.
Hal
I would full length size the cases so they will feed trouble free and don't seat the bullets into the rifle lands. You don't want your gun to jam or dump powder when your in middle a dog town out in the middle of nowhere.
Hal
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