A few years ago, I had a conversation with Western Powders in which I was told A2230 and Xterminator were the same powders which were both made in Belgiums. This morning, I find Xterminator is listed on Hodgdon website as Made in Belgium and A2230 is made in USA. Thought I'd mention it in case someone like me still thought they were interchangeable.
A-2230 vs Xterminator powders
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urbanrifleman
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Years ago it was made in Belgium. Now it's made in Florida.
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I believe they are both NATO powders made to the same spec.
All of the Accurate powers used to be imports. Most are now domestic North American manufacture.
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Wow. Did not know that.
Same applies to Ramshot Wild Boar (a Europe-only product) and Accurate-2520. As said about X-Terminator and 2230, this pair also used to be the same thing imported from Belgium (as are most if not all the Ramshots), but at some point Western switched supplier for the Accurate version to General Dynamics St. Marks in Florida.
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That is very disconcerting.
I love 2520 but have not seen any in a bit. The Wild Boar will be snapped up if I run into any. Thanks for that factoid.
My local benchrest shop now carriers the accurate/western powders. I shoot a bunch of them so i was happy to see it. Unfortunately the bug boys seem to always swallow the little guys
Blount is a classic example.
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Why would prices ever go down if one company owns all the brands?
I don't think Wild Boar is imported into the US. It's very close to TAC though, only a tad slower burning, so you could try that as a 2520 substitute. Lovex D073.6 (Shooters World Match Rifle in the US) from the Czech Republic was sold as Accurate Arms - 2520 until Western bought AAC and switched suppliers. So, if it's still currently available, that's another possible ball-type alternative in that bracket. Its kernels are coarser than Ramshot's, and when I last used it, 20 plus years ago, it was a rather dirty burning powder, but that may have changed in the interim.
I would think demand would enter in to it. But then again there has never been a price war in the component world that I know of so little incentive between competitors to drop pricing normally.
I've got a grundle full of powders in that same general burn rate but on this one rifle the 2520 just makes it come alive. As much work as I do with wildcats I need a myriad of stuff usable in the small , under 6.5 Grendel capacities, and really shoot way more test loads then I have to..lol
urbanrifleman
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SOOOO... What if you restrict supply because you have a monopoly? So that demand never drops?
You know... Like how they do with diamonds. And gold. And oil. And... And...
urbanrifleman
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Doesn't sound very free. Sounds pretty tyrannical to me.
I'll take that over government regulation any day.
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