Just got a wet tumbler, a Frankford Arsenal, did my first test batch of 9mm the other day, 400 cases with nothing but a little Dawn soap and two hours. The cases came out very good, I will add some lemishine and more time on the next test and I bet they will be perfect. I was slightly overwhelmed with the management of the pins, and I did not like the extra mess of all the rinse and dry of pins and cases vs a vibratory tumbler, it may be more trouble overall but I think it's going to do the best job.