7mm rsaum or 300 wsm...

[boltman223]

For hunting what would you all rather have, a 7mm rsaum, 7wsm or a 300 wsm?

Pros cons?

Availability of factory ammo might take the 7mm rsaum out of the equation, tell me if I'm wrong though.

 

[ShootDots]

Depending on what the quarry is, and assuming you want a magnum for larger animals like Elk, there is not a lot of difference. With the Advent of the Berger "Elite Hunter" 195gr pill, it would definitely compete favorably against the .300WSM, using 200+ grain bullets. But animals would probably not know what hit them with a well placed shot! With the proper bullets for the intended game, the difference between them is nearly non-existent. They will all do the job as far out as any majestic animal should ever be taken. I am not a fan of shooting at a nice Big Game animal past 400 yards. From that point on in, neither you nor the game would ever tell the difference.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Im not in love with the 300 wsm for hunting. As a repeater its too short. You are burring the bullet and really it becomes more suited to 180s. In a long action throated out a 215 ends up about 3.2" but will only run in the 2700s in a 26" barrel. Limited in a short action, and much better options in a long action. The saum is a great round but is effected in the same way. I would build a saum out of the 3 you offered. The 162 eld or 168 berger in a saum is a nice package.

 

[ShootDots]

Im not in love with the 300 wsm for hunting. As a repeater its too short. You are burring the bullet and really it becomes more suited to 180s. In a long action throated out a 215 ends up about 3.2" but will only run in the 2700s in a 26" barrel. Limited in a short action, and much better options in a long action. The saum is a great round but is effected in the same way. I would build a saum out of the 3 you offered. The 162 eld or 168 burger in a saum is a nice package.

You are absolutely correct Alex! I have been so used to single load, even with a short action for hunting (used to put the followers on top of the magazine well) that I had completely forgot about getting to magazine length! That is one primary consideration the OP will need to take into account! Great thinking Alex!

 

[Terry_M]

300 WSM. Many choices on the shelf for quality loaded ammo.

 

[boltman223]

It's gonna be on a short action. I was leaning a little towards the 300 wsm. I didn't want to go over 180 grain bullets. I would like to keep recoil as low as possible so maybe even lighter bullets.

On tge other hand The 7mm's are intriguing to me. Ive taken the 7 RSAUM off the list because of factory ammo availability. So it's between the 7 wsm and 300 wsm.

Is the 7mm siuted more to the short action than the 300? And at a max of 400yds is the 7mm wsm just as capable as a 300. Elk hunting is possible, but mostly a mule deer rifle.

Resale is also a consideration, but the least of my concerns.

 

[Patton243]

300 WSM. It's a better 30-06 as far as I'm concerned. 7 SAUM is an oddball cartridge these days. 7 WSM I don't like because of the short neck. The 300 WSM you can shoot 125s all the way up in the 200s for large game. And it's more commercialized than the other 2 you listed. And I have one and it's very accurate.

 

[boltman223]

300 WSM. It's a better 30-06 as far as I'm concerned. 7 SAUM is an oddball cartridge these days. 7 WSM I don't like because of the short neck. The 300 WSM you can shoot 125s all the way up in the 200s for large game. And it's more commercialized than the other 2 you listed. And I have one and it's very accurate.

It seems there is more positives to the 300. If you're getting better performance than a 30-06 in a short action I'll take it. I like that it's more popular commercially too.

Is the neck shorter on the 7mm than the 300?

 

[Mulligan]

For deer out to 400 yards it might be kind hard to beat a 7-08
Lower recoil, lots of factory ammo options, easy on the barrel......
CW

 

[nakneker]

http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/7mm/

I like the info and opinions in the link above for the 7WSM & Saum. I have a 7Saum and I've used it combined with Berger 180s on several big game animals, including Elk and Eland. The WSM has a slight performance edge, the difference bertween the two is minimal. I can tell you one only big game animal took more than a single shot and that was my fault.

I think between those two calibers, the 300WSM and the 7WSM, the more important decisions are in the details. How you set up your freebore, what action, what system you use to feed the rounds, who builds it etc. I would pick the Caliber, pick the bullet you want to use and design the rifle around that bullet. Just my two cents.

 

[boltman223]

For deer out to 400 yards it might be kind hard to beat a 7-08
Lower recoil, lots of factory ammo options, easy on the barrel......
CW

I like the 7-08, but the rifle has a magnum bolt face otherwise is probably be all over a 7-08.

I think between those two calibers, the 300WSM and the 7WSM, the more important decisions are in the details. How you set up your freebore, what action, what system you use to feed the rounds, who builds it etc. I would pick the Caliber, pick the bullet you want to use and design the rifle around that bullet. Just my two cents.

Yeah, I don't know what the freebore is on 300wsm (or the 7mm)Saami reamer, I think it's .189, but that seems like a lot for a 30 cal in a short action. A saami reamer is my only choice at this point. 180 grain is gonna be the max if I go with the 300.

 

[boltman223]

What about a 270 wsm?

 

[Patton243]

It seems there is more positives to the 300. If you're getting better performance than a 30-06 in a short action I'll take it. I like that it's more popular commercially too.

Is the neck shorter on the 7mm than the 300?

Yes, the neck is shorter on the 7 WSM than the 300 by a good margin. 270 WSM you wont get the bullet selection as you will with the 7mm and .30

 

[onelastshot]

http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/7mm/

I like the info and opinions in the link above for the 7WSM & Saum. I have a 7Saum and I've used it combined with Berger 180s on several big game animals, including Elk and Eland. The WSM has a slight performance edge, the difference bertween the two is minimal. I can tell you one only big game animal took more than a single shot and that was my fault.

I think between those two calibers, the 300WSM and the 7WSM, the more important decisions are in the details. How you set up your freebore, what action, what system you use to feed the rounds, who builds it etc. I would pick the Caliber, pick the bullet you want to use and design the rifle around that bullet. Just my two cents.

My thoughts exactly. It's important to choose the bullet you want at the velocity you want. Choose the cartridge that best suits your needs and build the rifle for that cartridge. I chose the 270WSM because the 150 Nosler LR Partition is exactly what I want to be shooting.