hey uncle Buck,,,Im usually the odd-ball in the bunch,,,you are getting good advice,,the 7 mag is ez to get to shoot good,,,great cal.....I use stout/max loads of H-4831(Fed-215) and like the accuracy of Sierra bullets,,,have loaded a lot of 150's---175's with great results....I load a lot for buddies that have the $$$ and time to go to Alaska/Wyoming/Montana and hunt ,,,one of them has shot several bears (big uns) with the 175,,,he shot one sorta like the hog story earlier in this thread,,,except it was from front to back!!! the bear was walking/trotting towards him and he shot it just under the chin/mouth ,,,sorta thru the throat/adams apple and the bullet went clear thru all organs,guts,etc., and was lodged in the rump!!!((thats aprox 7 feet of bear)),,,he chided me that there was NO exit wound,,,,hahahahha,,,,,Roger