6XC vs 250 Savage / 22-250?

[Changeling]

I keep hearing about the 6xc and I am just not sure why! So many guys talk about how great it is but I just don't get it !

Can someone please enlighten me to the difference between 6xc and the 250 Savage / 22-250 case?
To me this seems to be ridiculous and I really do need some experienced answers.

Not meaning to be disruptive, just Confused!

 

[LHSmith]

Blowout a standard .250 Sav. to an Ackley Improved and you get velocity that rivals a factory 25/06 load. The standard .250 case has quite a bit of taper.....they were designed to feed flawlessly in the Sav. 99.

 

[Frankr]

well changeling I do not mean to be insulting But there is a lot of information on the 6XC on the home page,i would think you would know that.

well for me I have allways been interested in the 22-250 6mm's espicially the 6mm/22-250 AI 40 deg shoulder.
But the cost of,barrel,dies,fire forming cases ect is a big expenence and not sure if anything is to gain. but the 6mm 22-250 has been around a long time in many variants.

now being a fan of the 22/250 and have owned several super accurate ones.I have been into accurate varmint rifles for over twenty years. I have allways favered the 6BR in a 14 twist and have owned several. also have and have had quite a few 6pp'c, 22ppc's ect.

Now being accuracy nut. but also love to shoot long range over 500 yards. the long skinney 6mm bullets have a high BC.so being able to push a 105 6mm bullet over 3,000 FPS makes a good long range cartridge. The benefis of the 6XC to me is the smaller case capacity lends it self to more consistent accuracy. that is a well proven fact. keeping the bullet above the neck shoulder junction of the case lends itself to more consistent accuracy and still fits into a short action with no mod's. .in fact the 6xc is kind of a 6mm 22-250 improved. or even kind of a long 6BR. so far I have been able to push a berger 105VLD to 3,150 FPS out of a 26" barrel. But it does seem to shoot great around 3,030 FPS and at that speed cases should last along time. the norma 6xc brass has made life easy. I hope they keep making it.


http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/6xc-for-competitive-shooting/



http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/6xc/

 

[Changeling]

Yes FJIM I did know that, and no I do not find you insulting, temperamental maybe, but not insulting.
I posted the question here to get unbiased information.

So, what you are telling me is that the 6XC is a shortened 250 savage case/22-250 case in a semi AI configuration in 6mm.

In other words a 22-250 AI case that has been shortened. Do you happen to know how much it was shortened and the the water capacities before and after?

I actually do respect your observations on the subject and your experience.

 

[Changeling]

FJIM, I went back to the site you provided and seen most of the answers I had asked for.
Thank you.

 

[PALarson]

in short the 6 xc probably isn't much better than a 6-22-250 where it probably excels is short fat case enhanced accuracy, less powder, straight case design similar to the BR family. Tubbs has proven the 6 XC at 1000 yards with many national championships, that probably says enough in itself.

 

[Changeling]

in short the 6XC probably isn't much better than a 6-22-250 where it probably excels is short fat case enhanced accuracy, less powder, straight case design similar to the BR family. Tubb's has proven the 6XC at 1000 yards with many national championships, that probably says enough in itself.

I realize it is (6Xc) shortened to increase efficiency (maybe) but exactly how much has the shortening decreased case capacity and or raised velocity/accuracy over the 6-250 AI ? That is the major question?

Mr. Tubb's is a phenomenal marksman as every one knows and he has proven that over and over, If I remember correctly he did not design the 6xc but utilized it to become world famous as the professional shooter that brought it to the worlds attention with his extreme marksmanship abilities.

 

[Joe R]

I know nothing about the 22-250 but David Tubb is a phenomenal rifleman, and his success with the .243 Winchester led him to create the 6XC as a proprietary cartridge.

Having said that the .243 is a pretty phenomenal cartridge that can only be improved by increasing brass and barrel life neither of which was a primary concern to the Winchester Corporation which sells both.

Enter the 6 Competition Match, it takes the .243 and blows the shoulder to 31 degrees and exceeds the 6XC in every way. Read the paper below and you'll understand why.

 

[Catfur]

Pretty sure that with CIP certification via Norma, the 6XC is no longer proprietary.

 

[Joe R]

Catfur said: Pretty sure that with CIP certification via Norma, the 6XC is no longer proprietary.

I don't even know what that means. Could you educate us?

Even if that is the case, it doesn't change the fact that larger case capacity using slower burning powder extends barrel life. And the sharper 31 degree shoulder extends brass life.

Kindest regards,

Joe

 

[LHSmith]

CIP is the european version of SAAMI.

 

[gemihur]

6 years is long enough

 

[Spike A]

6 years is long enough
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used to want that exact rifle in the worst way..

(keeping to the thread though even though its old,) I just sold a 22-250 and built a 6xc, use slightly lighter bullets for varmints and heavier for target, best of both worlds

 

[gemihur]

The platform has afforded me the opportunity to explore a lot of wildcats.
Here's a 6x223


and after I gave 'er a jacket.

 

[STOMP442]

The 6XC is a wonderful cartridge, it just has so much to like. Like the 250 Savage before it the 6XC makes for an excellent medium game hunting cartridge by providing the perfect blend of efficiency and performance with mild recoil. Designed with the proper twist for todays high BC bullets the 6XC provides wind drift and trajectories that meet or exceed that of large magnums without beating you up and still providing plenty of down range energy to handle most hunting needs easily. I highly recommend owning one or at least giving one a try.

 

[WyleWD]

The 6XC is a wonderful cartridge, it just has so much to like. Like the 250 Savage before it the 6XC makes for an excellent medium game hunting cartridge by providing the perfect blend of efficiency and performance with mild recoil. Designed with the proper twist for todays high BC bullets the 6XC provides wind drift and trajectories that meet or exceed that of large magnums without beating you up and still providing plenty of down range energy to handle most hunting needs easily. I highly recommend owning one or at least giving one a try.

+1^^^ Totally agree. It is very easy to load for in addition to the observations that Stomp442 made. I had a walk around varminter made for a Rem 700 about 7 years ago with a 10Tw Lilja sporter weight barrel. It handles the 70-90 gr bullets like a dream in both accuracy and terminal performance. The 75gr Vmax, and the 80gr Blitz as well as the 85gr Sierra HPBT are great out of mine.

It's abilities in longrange capabilities speak for themself if you want to shoot the long distances in competition. Definately worth a try. JME. WD

 

[mongo chicago]

Did a lot of prairie dog shooting with a 22-250 because popular belief was that was THE cartridge to use. Later used to a 25-06. After that switched to 6mm Remington and fell in love with that caliber. Now I have one in 6XC. I have only done steel plates at 500yds. with it but I can't wait to to take it prairie dogging, if the country ever opens up again. If my long range 6mm Rem ever needs a rebarrel, it will be in 6XC set up for a heavier bullet.

 

[gemihur]

Parent case for 22-250 is 250 Savage

 

[6MMsteve]

6xc with 108 bergers is a pretty good combo

 

[urbanrifleman]

6xc has the front end of a 6br. 300 thou neck and 30 degree shoulder.

It was specifically designed to shoot long, high bc bullets from magazine length in standard short action rifles without the base of the bullet getting into the donut.