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6PPC Reamer Dimensions

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Out of curiosity, and for those willing to share, what’s your dimension at the 0.200 line on your 6PPC reamer? I’ve seen everything from 0.439-0.444 with most being in the middle of that. Also, do you have clicker issues because of a tight reamer dimension at the base? What sizing die(s) are you using? Thanks!
 
There was a trend toward designing reamers very closely to virgin brass dimensions for a few years, some time back. For the most part, people finally got away from that practice because it created sizing issues and, as you alluded to, clickers, without any real upside. I think it's the main reason there is a market for custom dies at all, other than wildcats etc. I think this was an example of trying to be "too perfect" and causing problems rather than being better, per se. Like women, brass is only virgin one time.
Lol! You don't want too much but I'd much rather have a chamber a tad too big than the other way around and dies really do more to determine what is the ideal chamber size than anything else, imo. For a PPC or Grendel based case, I want no smaller than .442@.200 line but you can certainly go a little tighter if you buy custom dies, but there's just no reason to go tighter than that, IMHO. That's just my 2 cents and it's not the only right answer. Plenty of examples of both tighter and more generous dimensions working well.
I actually prefer to spec the reamer around available die dimensions rather than virgin brass. It works well and doesn't necessitate custom dies. I've seen die makers modify die dimensions slightly over the years but this dimension is generally a pretty consistent number to work from, where as we've seen lately with different brass, the brass can be quite different at times. Again though, more than one way to skin this cat and I've never seen a difference in how they shoot, either way, until you have clickers or at the other extreme, primer pockets not hold up quite as well.
 
There was a trend toward designing reamers very closely to virgin brass dimensions for a few years, some time back. For the most part, people finally got away from that practice because it created sizing issues and, as you alluded to, clickers, without any real upside. I think it's the main reason there is a market for custom dies at all, other than wildcats etc. I think this was an example of trying to be "too perfect" and causing problems rather than being better, per se. Like women, brass is only virgin one time.
Lol! You don't want too much but I'd much rather have a chamber a tad too big than the other way around and dies really do more to determine what is the ideal chamber size than anything else, imo. For a PPC or Grendel based case, I want no smaller than .442@.200 line but you can certainly go a little tighter if you buy custom dies, but there's just no reason to go tighter than that, IMHO. That's just my 2 cents and it's not the only right answer. Plenty of examples of both tighter and more generous dimensions working well.
I actually prefer to spec the reamer around available die dimensions rather than virgin brass. It works well and doesn't necessitate custom dies. I've seen die makers modify die dimensions slightly over the years but this dimension is generally a pretty consistent number to work from, where as we've seen lately with different brass, the brass can be quite different at times. Again though, more than one way to skin this cat and I've never seen a difference in how they shoot, either way, until you have clickers or at the other extreme, primer pockets not hold up quite as well.
Thank you! That was very detailed and explains a lot. My reamer is spec’d at 0.442, so I think I’m good to go. I went that route because I’ve seen in other cartridges that spec’ing too close to virgin brass causes sizing issues later on. Thanks again!
 
I have always leaned towards the .4402 as being bare minimum, like the JGS-1045 . The smaller base reamers and a miss matched die will cause the clickers. Never seemed to be a problem with the .4402 + reamers. My reamers are all based on what we use to call 6mm PPC USA size reamers .442
 
Thank you! That was very detailed and explains a lot. My reamer is spec’d at 0.442, so I think I’m good to go. I went that route because I’ve seen in other cartridges that spec’ing too close to virgin brass causes sizing issues later on. Thanks again!
It depends on the die but that number is generally a pretty safe one. I want .0005-.0006 minimum sizing of 3x fired and sized piece of brass at the base end of the case. A full thou is still pretty good but a little more sizing than I like. It'll shorten brass life a little and lead to more frequent trimming but neither being a deal breaker to me. So min to max .0005 to .001 sizing after spring back of brass that been hit pretty good about 3x. Just my 2 cents and what I've found to work well for me.
 
It depends on the die but that number is generally a pretty safe one. I want .0005-.0006 minimum sizing of 3x fired and sized piece of brass at the base end of the case. A full thou is still pretty good but a little more sizing than I like. It'll shorten brass life a little and lead to more frequent trimming but neither being a deal breaker to me. So min to max .0005 to .001 sizing after spring back of brass that been hit pretty good about 3x. Just my 2 cents and what I've found to work well for me.
Do you measure the .0005-.001 sizing around the .200 mark on the brass correct? Thank you!
 
The brass seems to expand to the size of the chamber over time, so that you have to use the correct size die to address the area. If not, you will have clickers regardless of the size at the 200 line.
Yes, actually it tries to expand to even bigger than the static chamber dimensions. The chamber and brass swell a bit under pressure when we pull the trigger. When the brass starts losing its elasticity, it tries to stay at that "under pressure" size. The die actually needs to be a few thou(about .003-.004) smaller than the chamber to yield even less than a thou clearance after sizing. If it only got to the static chamber size, we'd likely never get clickers. That'd be great and is why low pressure loads tend to last a lot longer(brass). Not as much chamber growth.
 

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