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6PPC Finicky to Load?

HTSmith

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Never mind that I'm short of primers and powder, I'm pondering buying a used short range bench rig to try to shoot small groups at our 100 yard range. A gunsmith friend of mine said that the 6PPC needed to be loaded at the range according to conditions to get best results. I'm not set up for this, nor do I know what "conditions" to look for. Can a 6PPC work for load at home person? Thanks for any input.
 
Never mind that I'm short of primers and powder, I'm pondering buying a used short range bench rig to try to shoot small groups at our 100 yard range. A gunsmith friend of mine said that the 6PPC needed to be loaded at the range according to conditions to get best results. I'm not set up for this, nor do I know what "conditions" to look for. Can a 6PPC work for load at home person? Thanks for any input.
YES
 
Yes, you can load at home. For the best results loading at home, I would suggest getting an Ezell or similar tuner for your barrel. What I did to make loading at the range a bit easier for me after I have my load window worked up, I preload powder charges in 1 dram vials. It makes handling powder at the range a whole lot easier & sizing/priming at the range is a breeze. PPC shooting is a whole different adventure than most other games and can be very addicting..............My Name Is Rick........I am a PPC-aholic.

Regards
Rick
 
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If you are wanting to shoot small groups at 100 yards you are pondering the right set up. A 6PPC purpose built BR rifle can't be beat. I would like to warn you though that the PPC "rabbit hole" can get really deep. I have a couple of suggestions for a novice PPC shooter. Start with H-322 powder and find your upper load window. The PPC works best at higher pressures. Get some flat base Berger or custom bullets and start them .010 into the lands. After getting your feet wet start trying other seating depths. Move only a few thousands at a time. As you gain experience get you a new barrel and try other powders and bullets. N133 and LT32 are proven performers. Custom bullets are a toss up. Many shooters make their own.
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Probably the most important thing to do for small groups is to use a good set of wind flags and use them every time.
 
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Never mind that I'm short of primers and powder, I'm pondering buying a used short range bench rig to try to shoot small groups at our 100 yard range. A gunsmith friend of mine said that the 6PPC needed to be loaded at the range according to conditions to get best results. I'm not set up for this, nor do I know what "conditions" to look for. Can a 6PPC work for load at home person? Thanks for any input.
Yes. Don't accept or reject any ideas without testing yourself. I pretty much agree with INshooter except I see no need to start with other than what is proven. VV 133, if you load to an upper node load stays stable has been my experience. I shoot matches out to 500 yds with mine. You will love it. If you want to try something other than vv133 I am finding lt30 working well and it is reputed to be very stable. Have fun.
 
Do any of you hunt, deer/hogs and such with your 6 PPC ? If so what bullet weight have you found works best ?
I have a light weight 6PPC hunting rifle that I have shot many,many deer with. Most have dropped on the spot. I shoot 70 gr Nosler BT's in it. I have never lost an animal with it. The farthest shot taken was 237 yds and the deer went approx. 50 yds. The bullet went thru both shoulders and actually blowed pieces of bone out the exit hole. My pet load has been 26.5 gr. H322 with the 70 gr. Nosler BT. It is also very accurate with the Nosler 55 BT's as well.
 
It’s the neck tension that makes it hard. If you have very light next tension and the bullet barely seated by the time you get to the range half or more of your bullets will fall out in the drive! Actual event here!
If you do load at home definitely get some foam to hold your bullets from shaking around on the drive..

68gr flat bottom, I’d probably go custom bullet full case half up the neck of n133 crunch them together and you oughta have a bug hole, I have found it’s really easy to get a one hole group with the ppc, what’s hard is doing it all day as the conditions change and you get tired-etc.
 
Do any of you hunt, deer/hogs and such with your 6 PPC ? If so what bullet weight have you found works best ?
The PPC is not set up for long bullets and won't stabilize the smaller lead-free with the twist used for bench rest. Not many bullets designed for big game that are light enough to stabilize and/or fit. Still - you can kill them with careful shot placement with the smaller bullets (65-70 grain). On a big pig - I'd go head shot.
 
Never mind that I'm short of primers and powder, I'm pondering buying a used short range bench rig to try to shoot small groups at our 100 yard range. A gunsmith friend of mine said that the 6PPC needed to be loaded at the range according to conditions to get best results. I'm not set up for this, nor do I know what "conditions" to look for. Can a 6PPC work for load at home person? Thanks for any input.
No, he is wrong.
 
Never mind that I'm short of primers and powder, I'm pondering buying a used short range bench rig to try to shoot small groups at our 100 yard range. A gunsmith friend of mine said that the 6PPC needed to be loaded at the range according to conditions to get best results. I'm not set up for this, nor do I know what "conditions" to look for. Can a 6PPC work for load at home person? Thanks for any input.
Old thread but research tuners on here. Yes, they can help with exactly the point of your post. That being, tuning at the range without loading at the range.
 
Well I got that used PPC though I haven't had time to shoot it much. Barts bullets seem to work well. Finally got some N133 and then had to make along drop tube to get it in the case. Making up brass is a pain. I've got doughnuts in a lot of my cases despite turning into the shoulder. Despite my complaints this is easily the most accurate rig I've shot. What all is involved with getting a tuner? Thanks for all the help on my journey.
 
I built my first PPC in 1978, on a Wichita Mini action. For my first range session, I loaded some Sierra 70BT bullets over 322, 4895, and 748. All grouped under 1/4". I loaded some into the lands and some just off and all shot about the same. By the way, I settled on 4895 with a different bullet and Remington primers and that rifle won me a lot of stuff over the next couple of years. I have not found the PPC to be fussy in any respect; in any rifle I have built. WH
 
Well I got that used PPC though I haven't had time to shoot it much. Barts bullets seem to work well. Finally got some N133 and then had to make along drop tube to get it in the case. Making up brass is a pain. I've got doughnuts in a lot of my cases despite turning into the shoulder. Despite my complaints this is easily the most accurate rig I've shot. What all is involved with getting a tuner? Thanks for all the help on my journey.
Getting the tuner, having the barrel turned for a tuner is what's involved.

I'm trying to remember someone that has a tuner on a 6ppc ..... I'm not sure i do. Maybe it's the short life span of the barrel, idk

I don't load at the range. I know a couple that do. They add or subtract a grain it two. How they know which way to go & which condition calls for a change i do not understand.
I asked and was told "when it's not hitting where i want it to"
Humm, that's about 50% of my desire .... So i still don't get it ...
 
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Getting the tuner, having the barrel turned for a tuner is what's involved.

I'm trying to remember someone that has a tuner on a 6ppc ..... I'm not sure i do. Maybe it's the short life span of the barrel, idk

I don't load at the range. I know a couple that do. They add or subtract a grain it two. How they know which way to go & which condition calls for a change i do not understand.
I asked and was told "when it's not hitting where i want it to"
Humm, that's about 50% of my desire .... So i still don't get it ...
When I was shooting BR, I'd pre-load the night before after looking at the weather report - and the range I went to has a weather meter which could be accessed online. Does not take the place of on-site tuning - but would at least ensure I was not taken out of my accuracy window by a big temperature change or dramatic change in humidity. I didn't (and still don't) have a tuner. When you always start your shooting on "Zero' scope setting, and record where the hits are (ie: 3/16" high, 3/16" low, etc.) in low or no-wind condition - you can see, over time, the approximate impact that external factors have on your load - but you must also record the temp and humidity so that you can detect the repeatable patterns over time. Doing this will help you to have a load that has shown to usually be in tune in these conditions. I have shot with a few guys who had it down quite well. And they tended to do better on average because of it. I and some others had rifles just as accurate and our shooting skills just as good (I think?)- but that tune can drift around ever so slightly all the time. I personally found it distracting to load at the range, but I might have done it if I had wanted to get more serious than I was.
 

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