6Dasher Dies

[falconpilot]

I just order a 6 Dasher reamer from Dave at PTG...It's a .269 neck with .106 freebore...All you Dasher guys out there..Where/Who makes complete dies for this round. I don't mind spending the money to buy the best dies..I'm looking for a Comp. Full Lenght, Body, and Seating Die...I want every die that I'll need to load this round.

Thanks

Jim

 

[brfun]

Redding I know makes some Dasher dies. Give Sinclair a call they can help you with no problems. I personally use a Redding body die with Wilson neck and seater dies. But i don't run mine hot and only need to bump the shoulders every five or so fireing's.
Brian

 

[falconpilot]

Thanks for the info....Yeah, the .269 neck was a tough decision...I like cleaning the necks up on brass...Feel that it produces are straight round...The fact that I have 500 basically new rounds of Laupa already neckturned for a .269 necked 6BR also played a roll....I am wondering if the necks being "overturned" for a straight BR will work and not split while fireforming the Dasher brass....

Jim

 

[Tim_in_TN]

I feel that is the best way to go as you don`t have any donut trouble that way. I always order a tight neck reamer and just got a 6BR with .269" and I love it.

Wouldn`t change a thing.

Just neck up and back down for a false shoulder. Don`t do it any other way.

 

[brfun]

Turn the necks before you fire form and you don't have to worry about the radius and the 40 degree shoulder. You can even turn just a portion of the virgin brass to help head space off of for your fire forming. I haven't personally tried that method but it reading and hearing about it makes sense to me. Just a few thoughts of mine as I to personally think a light turning is a good thing. I haven't had a problem even running the cutter back into the radius and shoulder a little after fire forming. Fact most my dasher cases were turned after forming. mine is a .272 neck and wish now I had a .269. Witch my next one will be.
Brian

 

[falconpilot]

Great info to know on the Dasher...Thanks guys! Just got from the IBS 1000 yard Nats. I was shooting my 6BR, and the switchy winds at Thunder Valley had me wishing that I'd carried my 6.5x284!! I feel the standard 6BR is giving up a little in the wind, thus the decision to go to the Dasher. The 6BR in no wind can't be beat,gives me regular 3-6" groups),but in the wind, I believe that the extra 100-200 fps will be a big help. I do as your friend, and grind my K&M cutter to fit the shoulder angle. Can't wait to get this Dasher shooting!!

 

[falconpilot]

Brian,

How much of the neck do you turn before fire forming? It sounds like I'll be OK forming my 6BR brass with the neck completely turned..


Jim

 

[brfun]

Forming mine i used the false shoulder method and i only turned a few cases before forming witch i just cut back into the false shoulder slightly. but no more then you are turning i think it would be fine to cut even a little further back than that before you form the false shoulder if you chose to do it that way. if you haven't read this it is some great reading on fire forming. fire forming
pick a method and try it. there is good and bad in each method.
with only .0001 or so turned off your necks i think you will be OK also. you may loose a couple of them in the process but but even unturned with the false shoulder i lost two out of a hundred. that is just my opinion
Brian

 

[Tim_in_TN]

Turn the 6BR neck down past the new shoulder area, down to almost kissing the std 6BR shoulder. Then expand to 25 and false shoulder to 6mm using the chamber to give your crush fit when adjusting die. Use a stiff 6BR load with Lee case lube coated on like wax, then buffed with soft cloth.

It works!!

 

[drano38]

Jim,
I put together a Dasher last winter.
I got my reamer from PT&G,.104" freebore, .272 neck), sent the reamer print to Lonnie Hummel at Hornady for a custom full length bushing die,they use Wilson/Redding bushings). Lonnie also wanted 3 pieces of brass so he could match the die base to the web size on the case. I'm not a BR expert, but the die appears very well made, cost about $130, and I had it in about 2 months. A friend of mine who does well at 600 yard matches has a couple sets of Hornady custom dies and said he will continue to use them. My seater is a Forster from Sinclair but I may get a Wilson seater and K&M hand press some day.
I turned the necks to get 3/4 of the surface cleaned up. Wish I had a .270 or .269 neck so I could have cleaned them up all the way around w/o getting too much neck clearance. I turned about 3/4 of the 6 BR necks before I formed them,Hornady hydraulic form die) so that the cut is now at the middle of the shoulder. If you trim necks fairly thin, I'd not recommend this method--don't want those shoulders too thin. But a light neck cleanup should be ok.
Good luck and enjoy the Dasher