6BRX Dies -- Source, Full-length Sizing?

[Forum Boss]

george ky
can you F/L with standard 6BR dies on the BRX...and who's the gunsmith's with the reamers for standard neck?
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Dubya

Check with Dave Kiff at Pacifc Tool & Gauge

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Moderator

Yes, get the Redding Body Die to shoulder bump, or the Redding FL sizing die. You can also have Jim Carstensen convert the Redding Body die to hold Wilson or Redding Bushings. That's a very good option.

Clymer has the BRX reamers also. Ask for the reamer spec'd for Bob Crone.

 

[MNA55]

Dave Kiff at Pacific made me a standard necked 6BRX reamer I'm sure he's made another one.

 

[6Dasher]

Hi,

Re: modified 6BR body die.. you could just get the Redding S type FL/neck die. This is a body die with bushing neck-sizer.


jim

 

[FatBoy]

I don't see how you could size the entire body with a standard 6BR FL die. It would seem it would stop sizing the body about .1" from the web. That's not as all good for a prone rifle.

So,, how do you Fl size the complete body with a standard FL or Body sizer? What am I missing?

Chris...

 

[Changeling]

I don't see how you could size the entire body with a standard 6BR FL die. It would seem it would stop sizing the body about .1" from the web. That's not as all good for a prone rifle.

So,, how do you Fl size the complete body with a standard FL or Body sizer? What am I missing?

Chris...

This is an excellent question, can someone answer, I just can't see how either!
I have a strong feeling the answer is actually "NO".
Changeling

 

[sparker]

A standard 6BR die will not size the base of a BRX case. This becomes a problem after the 3rd firing or so. Bolt lift sticks right at the top of the lift stroke. We are currently trying to modify a 6BR full length die to size just the base. I will keep you posted on the results.

Scott Parker

 

[Mntngoat]

I just sent a request to Redding on what it would cost to have a FL die made for the 6BRX using Bob Crone's reamer print.
Hopefully will have a word shortly, and will post it then.


Hope This helps
Michael

 

[Forum Boss]

Bob Greene, the gunsmith, has a new technology to produce true custom FL non-bushing sizing dies based off your fired cases. Price is $125, and you can get additional dies,with tighter or looser neck diams) for $100. Benefit is the whole neck and case is sized just how you want it, without the little roll at the base of the neck that neck bushings can produce. These should produce very nice brass, perfectly fitted to your chamber.

Bob Green
3464 Messersmith Road
York, PA 17404
Phone:,717) 792-1069
bobgreencustomgunshop@netzero.com

 

[FatBoy]

This is the response I got from Redding when I inquired about a small base Type S FL dies for the 6.5x284.

"Thank you for using Redding Reloading Equipment. A small-base 6.5MM/284 Type S Full Length Die would be $111.00, plus $50.00 engineering and setup. Delivery of custom dies is approximately 16 weeks after receipt of order."

This seemed a bit much to me, since they already make a small base body die. I rechambered for $50 and had the barrel back the next day. Not an option in the case of the BRX. Kind of makes the Dasher look a little easier, as the dies are already available.

Chris...

 

[Caduceus]

I don't see how you could size the entire body with a standard 6BR FL die. It would seem it would stop sizing the body about .1" from the web. That's not as all good for a prone rifle.

So,, how do you Fl size the complete body with a standard FL or Body sizer? What am I missing?

Chris...

This is an excellent question, can someone answer, I just can't see how either!
I have a strong feeling the answer is actually "NO".
Changeling

Would a standard or small base 308 die work to bring the last part of the body back into specs? Obviously not an elegant solution but perhaps this would work if you got desperate and couldn't chamber your rounds due to body expansion just in front of the web. Use the 6BR body die for the shoulder bump on the BRX and the 308 die for the last part of the body.

BTW: Hi - this is my first post

 

[Changeling]

It sounds like it would work, I've never used two dies on one case! It sure would be a sloppy approach after spending all the money to attain accuracy !
The shoulder on a BR is a little greater than the shoulder on a 308, but the shoulder on the 308 die shouldn't come that far down on the BR case. My recommendation is "Do it right" get the correct die.
Changeling

 

[Mntngoat]

Here is a response I just recived from Mike Bryant, concerning this.


Michael,
It depends upon how hot you shoot it as to whether this causes a problem with the base of the case or not. As long as you don't run maximum pressures, you shouldn't have a problem. You should still be able to get higher velocities than the standard 6 BR.

Mike Bryant

Bryant Custom
7761 FM 592
Wheeler, TX 79096
www.bryantcustom.com
,806)826-5618



Mike with the dies backed up it won't size the base of the case correct. Do you think they will be a problem after a few firing's?

Michael

 

[Changeling]

Well, it appears everyone has an opinion! It's your gun, do what you want. I stand completely behind what I said. Get the correct die.
Changeling

 

[Mntngoat]

Then why not just get a custom die set made from Redding. Shouldn't be much more than $160- $175 I'd say for a standard 3 die set!

Michael

 

[Mntngoat]

Well I was wrong!

I got a quote from Redding on what it would cost to have a custom set of dies produced for the 6mm BRX.

$138.00: Dies
$50.00: Engineering
$10.00: Shipping

12-16 week lead time paid in advance.

Michael

 

[MNA55]

You might call Hornady and get a quote from them on a custom die. "Marty Hummel", I think is the guy to talk to. I purchased one last year that appears to me to be of top quality for a lot less than what Redding wants. You send them 2 or 3 fired cases and tell them whether you what it a bushing die or not. It's worth looking into...

 

[Dubya]

The guy at Hornady is "LONNIE HUMMEL" and they,Hornady) will do a "Custom" die,FL sizing) for $75.00 plus shipping. Just send them,3) pieces of fire formed brass and/or the specs on your reamer, with a check and it's 6 to 8 weeks turn around time.

 

[Spook]

You have to wonder what the effect would be running this case into a FL .308 win die? After all once its been through a FL 6 BR die you'd only be sizing the last .100 of the case, right?

 

[Dubya]

I don't see how you could size the entire body with a standard 6BR FL die. It would seem it would stop sizing the body about .1" from the web. That's not as all good for a prone rifle.

So,, how do you Fl size the complete body with a standard FL or Body sizer? What am I missing?

Chris...

I have been using an older RCBS .243 FL sizing die,with out decapping pin) to clean up that last .100 that the 6BR die will not size. That works pretty good, but I have ordered a Custom die from Hornady which is $ 75.00 plus shipping and should have it by end of Sept.
dubya.

 

[Forum Boss]

Dubya,

When the die comes in and you've had a chance to evaluate it, please give us a picture and a short report that I can put in a future BLOG. This would be a cost-effective alternative for anybody needing a custom die. I'm curious to see how much it sizes down your fired brass.

Did you order a FL die with neck bushings, a body die, or a FL die that does the whole case,body and neck)?