6br vs 6.5x47 lapua

[ttfreestyle]

this will mainly be 600 and closer mid range . how is the recoil of the 6.5x47 vs 6br? what is the barrel life of the 6.5x47 vs the 6br? is the 6.5x47 as easy to tune as the 6br? thanks for any info



BASICALLY WHICH ONE IS BEST MID RANGE CALIBER??????

 

[superlight93]

600 and under the 6BR will be a good choice. Cheaper to shoot and longer barrel life. An 8-twist barrel would be ideal.

 

[rubbershotgun]

now correct me if im wrong, but wasn't one of the main reasons lapua created 6.5x47 due to it having better barrel life than 6br?

im pretty sure i read that somewhere

 

[superlight93]

Have not heard that one. If can find that info from Lapua please post a link.

 

[Erik Cortina]

This is probably what he is talking about.
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/65x47/

To me, if you are going to have two rifles, it makes sense for one of them to be a 6BR, because when the winds get up you will want better ballistics, even at 600 yards.

The 6.5x47 offers better ballistics, ease of tuning, and barrel life that match the 6BR. Also, I know you say 600 and under, but if you pick the "47" you will not be too underguned if you decide to stretch it out to 1000, but you will be if you have a 6BR. I believe the 6.5x47 is a better "first" rifle than the 6BR for that reason.

When all I had was a "47", I would shoot everything from 300 to 1000 yards with it, and I won my fair share of matches using it against 7mm rifles.

I believe you will be better off with the "47", but I don't think you will be unhappy with either.

 

[superlight93]

This is from the article you mentioned.

I’d stick to 6BR or variants if it were primarily for 600-yard or shorter range competitions, but I’d go for 6.5X47L if there were 800 to 1,000-yard matches in the mix. If it were for F-Class at national level, I’d have neither, but stick to .308W in the F/TR division which I shoot now. — Laurie, York, England”

Has anyone had physical proof that a 6.5x47L has the same barrel wear as a 6BR? I am not wanting to start an argument to prove who is right. I want to know for myself as well. I have read many claims to the reason someone chooses a certain chambering because of barrel life and or it's what the internet says is the best.

 

[Erik Cortina]

This is from the article you mentioned.

I’d stick to 6BR or variants if it were primarily for 600-yard or shorter range competitions, but I’d go for 6.5X47L if there were 800 to 1,000-yard matches in the mix. If it were for F-Class at national level, I’d have neither, but stick to .308W in the F/TR division which I shoot now. — Laurie, York, England”

Has anyone had physical proof that a 6.5x47L has the same barrel wear as a 6BR? I am not wanting to start an argument to prove who is right. I want to know for myself as well. I have read many claims to the reason someone chooses a certain chambering because of barrel life and or it's what the internet says is the best.

What you have here is an F-T/R shooter giving advise on F-Open caliber choices. Now, I understand that is his perspective and opinion and he is entitled to it. But I believe the 6.5x47 is more versatile than the 6BR because of the better ballistics. If you choose a variant of the 6BR, you will have to fireform and still will not be able to match the ballistics of the 6.5x47.

I have no experience with the 6BR and barrel life, but I know the 6.5x47 will go 2500+ of accurate barrel life. It sounds to me like they are about the same. Now take a Dasher or a BRX and the "47" could possibly have better barrel life.

I played with a Dasher last year. Too much work and not enough to beat my "47".

 

[jhord]

In regards to recoil, I have a 6BR and a 6.5x47 both weighted to just under 17lbs. The 6BR is virtually recoiless, the 6.5 has substantially more but still is not objectionable at all. It just gives you a little push and tends to move around a little more on the rests. As far as which one for 600 and under I'd give the nod to the 6BR. It'll be all that you need it to be for punching paper, and a lot cheaper to shoot. If you intend to do any hunting or 800/1000 yard shooting, then the balance starts to tip toward the 6.5. I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of a 130 Berger VLD hunting bullet. It carries a TON more energy downrange than a 6BR or even my .308.

 

[6BRinNZ]

+1 to Eriks comments

I Shoot a 6BR in F-open and it is a tougher ask in tricky wind....most guys here are using 7mm now. They might use a 6BR for 300 - 600 yrds on very calm days, and thats more about keeping the round count down on the 7mm.

IMO the comparison is splitting hairs somewhat (recoil, barrel life, accuracy....up to 600yrds) if you back yourself in the wind....if not choose the better ballistics out of the two choices (why a 6br vs 6.5x47?).

 

[halfmoanut]

Well I have owned them both,done my fair share of shooting both competive and for a hobby and I would have to lean towards a 6br it in my opinion has an edge in raw accuracy, that being said nothing trumps accuracy,(Nothing)... It is easier to tune,less expensive to shoot,less recoil,better bullets(custom) and factory.However the other guys have some valid points also.Better barrel life with the 6.5 no doubt.

 

[flatlander]

I had built 5 Dashers before finally trying a std. 6BR in a R5 tubegun for XC HP. After getting blown around in the wind at 600 a few times, I wondered why I hadn't gone with a Dasher in the first place. I've shot a couple of my LR prone Dashers in several 1000yd. any/any matches, even though I've got rifles in 6.5x55AI and 284 Win. No question that the 6.5s & 7s are better in the wind, but at the end of a long day of shooting & pulling targets, there's also no question that the Dasher is less fatiguing to shoot, and thus easier to shoot well.

Also have three 6x47s that I've shot extensivly at 1000 with DTAC 115s, and while I believe the Dasher still has a slight edge in potential accuracy, the 6x47 is a very good round.

I finally got around to building myself a couple of 6.5x47s (Eliseo RTS & BAT 3L prone rifle) two years ago, and have been favorably impressed by the cartridge at 600-1000yds. I've shot both Berger 130VLDs & 140 LRBTs with RL17, and am sticking with the 130 for now. Recoil in a 14.25lb rifle is relatively mild compared to a 308 Palma rifle (I shot both rifles during the Berger LR matches at Ben Avery last Jan.), and the 130 performs well at 1000.

One thing I've noticed when borescoping four different 6.5x47 bbls.(Kriegers & Bartleins) is that it takes forever to smooth out the reamer marks on the lands in the leade - much longer than in either a Dasher or 6x47. That leads me to believe that barrel life in the 6.5 is going to be pretty good, though I've not got 1000rds through any of my 6.5x47s yet.

No doubt that 6mm bullets are less expensive than 6.5s, and that the 6.5x47 has a bit more recoil than a BR. But, if I were shooting 600 out at Byers, Co., or Raton, NM, I'd prefer to be using a 6.5x47.