6BR vs 260 Rem

[APK]

Hi guys, first post on this board not counting my scopes for sale.

I've been looking over this site for several months and figured it was about time I join up!

I have a new build coming up, and Most of the pieces I already have picked out. My BIG problem, is the cartridge. I have narrowed it down, after a LOT of consideration, down to 260 and 6BR. But now I can't seem to pick the final winner, so I was hoping you guys could help.

I'm looking for a tack driver. I plan to use this project to develop my shooting skills before I take a try at that 100yd stuff. I will be shooting anywhere between 0-600yds, most of it, at least in the begining, will be 300 and under. I was set on 260 but the 6BR appeals to me for a couple reasons:

1. Reduced recoil,not sure how much of a difference, but it seems the 6BR would be significantly less.

2. Cost- seems like I could do a lot more shooting for less money with the 6BR.


Any help from those more experienced is greatly appreciated. Your logic behind your choice is greatly appreciated.

 

[BountyHunter]

You pretty much answered your own question. The 6BR in a .271 or .272 no neck turn chamber would be ideal. Especially if you put it in one of Jerry stillers new Predator actions.

Hard to go wrong with that action and caliber.

BH

 

[APK]

Unfortunately at this time I can't go with a custom action. But thanks for the reply. I guess I kind of did.

 

[APK]

Does the 6BR have a significant barrel life adv. over the 260? And does the Dasher have brass readily available? Also, where can I read more on that Preditor action?

Thanks for your input guys, it's very much appreciated

 

[Wild_Bill]

1)I'm looking for a tack driver.
2) I plan to use this project to develop my shooting skills before I take a try at that 100yd stuff. I will be shooting anywhere between 0-600yds, most of it, at least in the begining, will be 300 and under.

3) Reduced recoil,not sure how much of a difference, but it seems the 6BR would be significantly less.

4) Cost- seems like I could do a lot more shooting for less money with the 6BR.

Hi with the above numbers i re allocated the 6mm BR is the best option
1) they are verry accurate with 8 twist and 105-107gr bullets
2)they are used as a perfect cartrige for 600 yard benchrest
3) they have hardly any recoil and half that of a 260
4) cost of shooting the barrel life is similar with the BR mabe having a slight edge projectiles and primers are verry close in price but you will use less powder in the br so there is a slight advantage there. i would also try the custom 95gr Flat based bullets back to 300 yards they should work well.

I would go with the 6mmBR and you wont look back especialy if you are new to shooting longer ranges. You will learn a lot with a br because they are so accurate as a friend of mine says " you can feed them rice bubbles and they shoot" it is almost true they are a verry accurate cartrige and dont think a 260 can match it back to 600 yards.

Cheers Bill
Australia

 

[Wild_Bill]

I would not reccomend a Dasher to a new shooter you have to fireform the case bu mooving the shoulder 100 thou forward and change the angle to 40 deg from 30. I have one and love it but you are using 10% more powder and your barrel life will be less. I believe if you are learning to shoot longer ranges keep it simple and a 6mmBR is that. as for the case issue of 260's you just neck up Lapua 243 cases just as good as Lapua 6.5-284 cases. I would not do a standard 260 either but i would do a 260AI before eithe a 260 or 6.5-284 they are better ballanced. There is a therad on the new Preditor and if you go to the web advert on the first page there is a ling. I would also look at the Surgin action also advertised on this forum short action with an inbuilt weaver type 20moa base machined as part of the action i believe they are a similar price.

Cheers Bill
Australia

 

[jb1000br]

Does the 6BR have a significant barrel life adv. over the 260? And does the Dasher have brass readily available? Also, where can I read more on that Preditor action?

Thanks for your input guys, it's very much appreciated

Barrel life...yea, near double in some circumstances...expect at least 3000

RE: Predator action -- click the home page linky top left and scroll down

JB :thumb:

 

[APK]

Predator looks nice, but for my first build into the BR world,kinda BR anyway ) I think I'm going to keep it simple and go with a 700. Hope I don't catch to much flak for that, but right now I'm on a budget, and I think the 700 will do good for my application.

Looks like I just may have to get a 6BR...

 

[memilanuk]

Barrel life...yea, near double in some circumstances...expect at least 3000

JB... you might want to re-calculate your figgers there. The 6.5-08 generally goes 2500-3000. Unless you're saying to expect accurate barrel life from a 6mm BR over 5-6k rds...

Monte

 

[APK]

Just a quick question, I know the BR crowd loves the 6BR, and obviously I'm very interested in it but...what does it offer over the 243? Seems to be the 243 offers more powder, but why isn't it used for BR?

What kind of pills am I lookin' to push out of a 6BR? Powder type? And what barrel contour/length/twist?

 

[APK]

Wow that sounds way to easy, what's the catch?!?

All you have to do is fire standard brass then neck size from there? Obviously I've never fireformed brass.

 

[memilanuk]

The .243 shoots very well, just a tad overbore... lots of powder going down the same size hole... about 15-20gr worth for about 300-400fps more. Barrel life tends to go down markedly when ya start doing that sort of thing

As for the other info on the 6mm BR... I'd suggest go to the main home page for www.6mmBR.com and look thru the stuff on Reloading, among others. Also, sifting thru some of the 'Gun of the Weeks' can glean some pretty good info as well, as can browsing the archives here on the forums.

HTH,

Monte

 

[APK]

Does the BRX cut barrel life?

 

[APK]

exactly what I was looking for Thanks!

 

[APK]

Recently it has been mentioned to me the 6BR has extraction issues in a 700 possibly. What do you guys think of this.

Craig

 

[jb1000br]

cant be extraction issues...has the same boltface as the 308 and half of every cartridge out there. but a PPC might...

JB

 

[memilanuk]

The problem I had w/ a 6mm BR in a *Savage* action involved it popping loose from the extractor when it was not quite all the way out... probably 99% out of the chamber, but it'd bump against the receiver where the bolt lug raceways are, and come free. Leaving me to try and hook what I could of a very stubby case head w/ a pinky and get it out of there. Not fun. Fred Moreo over @ SSS fixed this w/ a new milled steel extractor. I'd had some problems w/ the extractor holding onto the case w/ Winchester .308 cases,different barrel, same gun), this should fix the problem entirely,known issue apparently w/ a certain run of Savages extractors from what I was told).

I've had a similar problem w/ a couple Rem700's... first was a .223 Rem, 700VS model. Did exactly the same thing, but I generally single loaded, so it wasn't a big deal. If I tried operating the bolt handle quickly, it'd literally slam the case mouth over against the receiver and dent the case mouth on a .223. When I got my second 700VS, this one in .308, and it did the same thing, I tried going w/ a lighter ejector spring made by Holland Gunsmithing that didn't push the case over so bad. Worked for about a year, then it started to loose strength, and the cases started dropping on top of the next round in the mag again.

This time I replaced it w/ a full strength OEM ejector spring, and got the ejector fixed by the local gunsmith. Problem solved for as long as I had the gun. As far as I know this isn't really 'normal', but somehow I got two in a row that did it...

HTH,

Monte

 

[jb1000br]

I figured we had a terminology mixup in the works...yes i can see an EJECTION problem with the short case, but you should be able to tune it by trimming the spring if you have to.

Honestly i doubt you'd have a problem though...with a rem

JB

 

[APK]

Reason I ask is because people keep bring up the 260 and it does seem like the best 'all-around' cartridge. Well here is my dilema, I am basically trying to decide between two animals.

1- 6BR in Richards customs rifle stock in 6BR/ 700 action as a varmiter/BR rifle

or

2- 260 in a McM or AICS/ 700 or surgeon action


Number 1 is obviously cheaper, but many have said...why build number 1 when number 2 can cover that AND reach farther out...

...I'm loosing my mind trying to decide which one to build...

:,

 

[APK]

hmmm...what if I build both?

Actually, that is what I think I will do, but I have a question...

what action should I use for the 6BR? I was going to go 700 but I hear it has some ejection/extraction,dunno which) issues. I can't afford a custom one, but would like to know if I have any other options.