6.5X55 semi-auto?

[overbore]

What semi-auto chassis such as an AR is adaptable into a reliable platform to shoot the 6.5X55 with the new 120gr Berger? Somewhere around 48- 49,00psi is ample. Many thanks for ideas. Overbore.

 

[sling_n_glove]

That's a peculiar requirement. With that moderate pressure maximum, you can accomplish pretty much the same thing with a 6.5-08. Consider an AR-10 or whatever other 7.62 NATO gas operated rifle for that. Check out the AR-15s chambered for 6.5mm Grendel if you're willing to adapt your thinking all the way in that direction. Everone is saying great things about this latter option. If you got yourself an old 6.5mm Swede and you're now looking for a way to get more use out of the dies, brass, etc., just go all the way and start with a new cartridge.

 

[overbore]

Thanks for your viewpoint/ perspective. I am not interested in the Grendel line of proprietary cartridges as I am looking at boosting the "Old Swede" up to 3,100fps and going back down to 2,700fps has little merit IMHO; however, we are looking at a long magazine requirement which may be the limiting factor as I do not know of any custom mags that would fit either a M1A/M-14 or the AR platforms. It was trouble enough to get a longer 300wsm magazine and the 06 size length proposed is not easily solved but will appreciate your further ideas with thanks. Cordially, Overbore

 

[rhino]

You would be dealing with a long action caliber when loading from a magazine. So your out of an AR 10 platform. You would need to go magnum and then have the bolt face tweaked to deal with a smaller base.

I would seriously consider the 6.5x47 or .260 in an AR 10 type Platform.

RHINOUT!

 

[Ogre6br]

the 6.5x55 is too long for the AR platform.
try re-barrelling a M1 Garand or using a Jlungman that was built as a 6.5x55 Semi in the first place

later
P

 

[overbore]

Jlungman? is that fish, foul or firearm? How embarrassing that after 50+ years of shooting, you have gone and tossed out a new name--thanks. Overbore Right, the AR is length limited unless one goes to the RND---gotcha!!!

 

[Ogre6br]

its the finnish Military rifle that fires the 6.5x55 similar to the egyptian hakim

it works in all kinds of weather and is built to handle the 6.5x55

later
P

 

[Asa_Yam]

...or using a Jlungman that was built as a 6.5x55 Semi in the first place.

An alternative spelling is "Ljungman". See http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl17-e.htm

 

[JER]

its the finnish Military rifle that fires the 6.5x55 similar to the egyptian hakim

The Ljungman is a Swedish, not Finnish, rifle. While it is similar to the Hakim, that is because the Hakim is a poor copy of the original.

 

[overbore]

Did my homework on the unpronounceable Swede. Turns out it was the gas system originator of the FN-49 and eventually the AR but the 8mm was a POS and a real shoulder thumper. The Swede semi-auto is not going to be easily found nor modified so it is on hold as Plan B.
Anyone know of reliable 'smith who could take M1 and modify? Many thanks, Overbore

 

[rstreich]

The Swede semi-auto is not going to be easily found nor modified so it is on hold as Plan B.
Anyone know of reliable 'smith who could take M1 and modify? Many thanks, Overbore

Well, it's not so tough to find, Gunbroker, but it ain't cheap and it might not be fun to modify.

robert

 

[Exercion]

Just curious if one of the Browning BAR's could be chambered in 6.5x55? I have though about how neat a garand would be in that caliber myself, but that's one of those maybe later projects. As a side note, the Ljungman is a fine shooter as is, though it doesn't lend itself to optics installation. And it's pronounced "Youngman" though the "YOU" part has the same sound as you or youth. Or so a Swedish guy told me.

Eric

 

[Ogre6br]

would be even better in a 1918 style BAR

later
P

 

[acpchuck]

Several months ago I read an article in Shotgun news about a company building a modified type AR lower receiver. The lower is modular with the trigger and mag sections actually being separate. This allowed them to use cartridges of '06 length on an AR platform. Of course it took special upper receivers and magazines but it should work for a 6.5 x 55 length cartridge.

Sorry I can't remember the name of the company but I bet doing a search of AR sites you can find it.

 

[rstreich]

There's a thread on something like this over on AR15.com--some three-letter acronym that I can't remember right now. However, I don't think this one offered anything for '06 length cases.

robert

 

[outlawsix]

Here ya go.

http://cobb50.com/mcr.htm

Not sure of the cost but imagine it will eat a couple grand real quick.

 

[M9Powell]

Did my homework on the unpronounceable Swede. Turns out it was the gas system originator of the FN-49 and eventually the AR but the 8mm was a POS and a real shoulder thumper. The Swede semi-auto is not going to be easily found nor modified so it is on hold as Plan B.
Anyone know of reliable 'smith who could take M1 and modify? Many thanks, Overbore

I've owned several different AG-42s & Hakims. The 8mm version is not a shoulder thumper. Its actually quite mild. Weight & gas operation tame this traditional shoulder thumper to a large degree, but what really makes it a pussycat is the very efficient muzzle break that came on these. Bottom line, Its an ear splitter & one heck of a thumb-buster, but defiantly not a shoulder thumper. M9

PS M1 thumb ain't $hit. If you get Hakim thumb you may not have a thumb. Its likely to amputate.

 

[BobLor]

I have both a Hakim and Ljungmann and I agree neither is a shoulder thumper and both are quite accurate. For the Ljungmann I have an extra action cover on which I put a redfield type sight base for a Redfield Olympic sight. I took off the orignal rear sight leaf,and I then had a neat 6.5x55 semi auto match rifle. I shot it in a few local matches and it did quite well. The rifle is so heavy that the front sight just kind of bobbed in the black during rapid fire.
It is hard on brass during extraction and ejection and I never reloaded for it I just used the spitzer military ammunition. One big draw back is that I had to loosen the Redfield Olympic sight to get it out of the way as I moved the action cover forward to engage and move back the bolt carrier. Surplus ammo got hard to come by and I moved on to other strange rifles. Yes they will bite your finger hard, worse than a Garand, if you are not careful.
Bob

 

[FrankPB]

The Ljungmann had been bascially the very first semiautomatic direct gas impingement rifle produced in numbers. Therefore its more precise than most piston based systems - fewer moving parts. it looks not bad ass black paint tactical but as far as I consider it, its more accurate than most modern rifles anyway. Regarding the brass and reloading cartridges, you may want to make sure, that you get the B version, which had been factory modified in the 50ies. Part of the modification was a rubber deflector that protects the cartridges. On the top side every now and then, rifles show up which have not been shot too much. Nevertheless they are rare, since the good swedish ones have been only about 30,000 built.

What I try to find out is, if there has been any original scope mount to be attached. Up to know I haven't found any valid ressource that even indicates there has been a proper mount.

Frank

p.s. the bastard really bites your thumb if you don't pay attention - I give it not any more to beginners, since they can really hurt themselves reloading.

 

[Fast14riot]

What about a Noreen BN36 designed for the .30-06? Pretty much an AR10 copy but with a long action. They also have magnum bolt size available.


-Alexander