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6.5x47L Info Page?

I see we have a new 30BR Info Page which is great news but does anybody know what happened to the 6.5x47L Info Page. Last I heard it was very close to being finished and a page being posted!

Anyone have any news on this?
 
Very much interested in that information also. I have been working with a 6-6.5X47 and I'm having a 6.5X47 built as we speak for my new deer rifle.
 
I am all for a 6.5x47 info page, especially considering the number of different weight bullets actively being used in this caliber rather than just 139-140gr. class.
 
I've been waiting for Jason to complete his testing the the 6.5x47/6-6.5x47 rifle. That has taken much longer than anticipated. When that's complete we'll be starting on the combined six/six-five X47 LAPUA cartridge guide. In the meantime, please post recommended loads in this thread.

ID 6-6.5x47 or 6.5x47
Powder
Powder charge
Bullet
Seating depth
Primer type
COAL
Velocity,if known)
Barrel length and type
Comments on load qualities and accuracy
 
Ok, I'll kick it off with my fave target load!

6.5x47L Version
Powder = Varget
Powder Charge = 38.5gr
Primer = CCI 400
Bullet = Lapua Scenar 139gr,I point them using John Whidden's die)
Seating Depth = 0.460'
COAL = 1.360'
Velocity = 2890fps
Barrel = Krieger 30' in 8 twist
Action = Barnard
Reamer = PT&G Print# 14485,0.159 freebore - no neck turn)

Comments:
500 rounds at this load have been fired thru the rifle.

Redding Type S dies used with a 0.289 neck sizing bush.

Lapua brass lightly neck turned to 0.013' thickness.

I see no need to use magnum primers and think that by using the standard CCI 400 primers with a fast-ish powder like Varget I avoid pressure spikes.

Accuracy is excellent, on the weekend I shot in a 3 day comp at the first range of 300 yds I shot a 98 in gusty conditions. In Australia the 10 ring measures 1/2 moa, so eight of my opening account grouped in 1.5'. Throughout the 3 days with ranges out to 800yds the 6.6x47L was competitive in the f-open class. I was shooting against 300WSM, 7mm, 6.5x284 and 6mm rifles. The 6.5x47L held its own and only my poor wind reading skills dropping me back in the field.

The 139gr Scenars can be shot at higher velocities in my Barnard action but I have an accutate load and dont see the need to enter into the 2900+fps at the moment. I tried 130gr Berger VLDs with success at 2950fps and even out to 3000fps with Varget.

At the moment I am staying with the Scenars as they shoot where I point them and are dimensionally more consistent than the Bergers. Dimensional consistency means I dont have to trim the bullets before I point them. The Scenar's BC is good to start with but once pointed they are truly excellent and using Bryan Litz's ballistic calculator come out with a G7 match at 0.330 as opposed to Bryan's listing of 0.285.

Ian
 
Moderator: Excellent news, to hear the project is still alive. I expect my 6.5X47 Kreiger barreled, Trued Rem action, Kiff Bolt, Brown Precision stock, to be ready by this weekend. Should have some load data and performance evaluation in a few weeks. Thanks for keeping us informed.
 
Just had some good results with my 6.5x47 AI Aw,,,
The first couple of weeks i had very bad groups,,
I tried every load that i could think of using re15 and
123 grain scenars,, These were surpossed to be the best combo
in this calibre?????, I worked up in .3 grain measures from 37 grains right upto 39,, Scenars in the lands then out of the lands??? I was pulling my bloody hair out by this time to say the least??? Forgot to say the primers were cci br4,,,
Then i bought some cci450 primers and hey presto four rounds in one hole off the bipod laying down in the fields on the farm??
The load was 38.6 of re15,,Group size was .230 out of a 1in8.5 twist Border barrel,, Smiles all day!!!!
Another good load was 95 vmax Re15 or h4350, This will be my foxing load And it was putting rounds into 1.5' at 300 with ease. The scenars were averaging 3034 fps at 38.6 g of re15 so this will be my 600 br load. Hope this is of some help to other 6.5x47 users on here,, All the best from Wales,, Darrel
 
Krieger 8'T @ 25'
Lawton 7500 Dual port
Berger 130VLD
H4350 42.1Gr RL15 DID NOT WORK FOR ME
CCI450 or Wolf SRM
Kiff 13494
Jam the bullets .010 in the lands.
2860 FPS
Redding Type S FL die gave poor run-out. A Forster FL non-bushing die gave outstanding results. I had to run the reamer about .005 into the Wilson seater for the cases to seat flush with the bottom of the die.Rifle was built by by Bob Green. This combo has done very well in Bridgevilles 600yd br matches.
Larry
 
Does anyone have loads for the 95 Vmax or 120 Amax they want to share? Looks like my rifle will be done next week, so I should start getting together some load data.
 
6.5x47L
Powder = H4350
Powder Charge = 41.5
Primer = Wolf SRM
Bullet = JLK 130 vld
OAL = 2.800 .010 crush into lands
Velocity = 2975fps
Barrel = Bartlein 28" 8 twist

single digit ES/SD very accurate
 
6.5x47L Version
Powder = Reloder 15
Powder Charge = 38.0gr
Primer = CCI 450
Bullet = Sierra 120 MK
Seating = 0.015" off
Velocity = 3050fps
Barrel = Shilen 27" 1 in 8 twist
Action = Surgeon

6.5x47L Version
Powder = Reloder 15
Powder Charge = 35.5gr
Primer = CCI 450
Bullet = Lapua 139 Scenar
Seating = 0.015" off
Velocity = 2775fps
Barrel = Shilen 27" 1 in 8 twist
Action = Surgeon

Both loads are as hot as I want to go due to primer pressure signs.


6.5x47L Version
Powder = Reloder 15
Powder Charge = 37.0gr
Primer = CCI 450
Bullet = Berger 130
Seating = 0.025" off
Velocity = 2875fps
Barrel = Shilen 25" 1 in 8 twist
Action = Surgeon
 
Marksman said:
Bump. Did we give up on the 6.5x47 page?
I'm starting to wonder the same thing!
Its become a popular cartridge and one that is truly accurate so hopefully Accurate Shooter will have the 6.5x47L page up soon.

Ian
 
I certainly hope we get one. I have a Barnard based 6.5x47L coming. It would be great to have a good base of info to start my load workups from. There certainly is very little reloading data available other than what can be gleaned from a few forums.
 
Good choice of action ;D
Here's mine, though it now wears an 8-32 Nightforce.

http://s316.photobucket.com/albums/mm343/Chris-NZ/?action=view&current=Toy-HiRes.jpg

Second 3-shot group at 100 while sighting in. MV is actually 2945av out of the 27" Shilen

http://s316.photobucket.com/albums/mm343/Chris-NZ/?action=view&current=38grVarget-123Scenar.jpg

I need to develop loads a bit more. 38.6gr gave similar results with still no pressure signs so I need to devote some time to testing further.

have fun
ChrisNZ
 
Id also like a 6.5x47L info page..

im using 39gr of Varget (2208) behind the Lapua 123's
My rifle is a Stolle Grizzly II action with a 26 inch Krieger 8 twist barrel.

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After a worthwhile wait, I'm about to take delivery of my AI AW in 6.5x47Lapua, and have therefore been looking over the forum for load and performance data.
I will principally be shooting F-Class, so distance is known. The premise I'm working on is that overall accuracry (and thus score) isn't overally effected by bullet drop as shooting takes place at known distance, and in simplistic turms can be dialed out, but that the greatest contributitor to dropped points is wind related lateral displacement. My conclusion is therefore, that for a given level of absolute accuracy, the projectile least effected by wind displacement will statistically drop fewer points, and that a poor wind call will also have a lower impact.

Given this observation, Zak Smith's combination of 139 Lapua Scenar at 2790fps (Gun of the week 84) looks very competitive, but I'd be glad to hear other forum readers opinions & thoughts.

Thanks in advance,

Paul,
Northamptonshire, England
 
Paul,

the 139gn Scenar is a relatively low-BC bullet compared to some other 140s in the calibre. It has a very large meplat (but that can be overcome with a Whidden or other make of bullet pointing die), but also a rather blunt front-end of 9.7 cal radius tangent ogive compared to 18.32 cal R for the 130gn Berger VLD, 18.27 cal R for the 140 VLD and 15 cals R for the relatively new 140gn Berger Long-Range BT. The VLDs are of course secant-nose form bullets and that can impose limitations on their use in F-Class as they made need to be seated hard into the lands to shoot well. The Scenar and Berger L-R model are tangent ogive and therefore much more jump-tolerant, usually easy to get to shoot well and you can seat them a bit off the rifling, so there is no question of pulling the bullet with all that entails if you get the command to stop shooting and unload for any reason.

Taking these four bullets, and using Bryan Litz's actual shooting derived data over long ranges ("Applied Ballistics for Long-Range Shooting", a book that is a must-have for the long range BR and F-Class shooter who handloads and has a choice of cartridge / bullets) and Berger Bullets' G7 reference standard PC ballistics program, the four come out as follows for retained 1,000yd velocity and wind drift in inches in a 10mph 90-degree crosswind:

130gn Berger VLD at 2,850 fps MV - 1,423 fps / 77"
140gn Berger VLD at 2,750 fps MV - 1,470 fps / 71"
140gn Berger BT L-R at 2,750 fps MV - 1,435 fps / 74"
139gn Scenar at 2,750 fps MV - 1,365 fps / 81"

Remember other factors. External ballistics (MV + BC) isn't everything. Accuracy + small MV ES spreads are mighty important especially in long-range F-Class, and the 139gn Scenar has a very good long-range track record in the UK in both BR and F in various cartridges. Secondly, the MV you can obtain allied to accuracy etc will likely vary according to bullet make, and a slightly lower BC bullet may perform better than a 'superior' example if it can be driven 100fps faster from your barrel.

Then don't get massively hung up on comparing 10 mph crosswind drift figures unless you shoot on ranges with really wild weather. It's the wind strength / direction changes that matter, so an extra 4" 10mph drift figure will likely be reduced to a half or quarter that in a real range situation, and you need to decide how important that is. Remember, that learning to read the wind and adjusting your aim accurately will see much greater score improvements than using bullet A compared to Bullet B in any given cartridge. When you get to 10" (in the 10mph crosswind) as between the best and worst above, that does start to have an effect.

You don't say though at what ranges you intend to compete. At up to 600yd, the ballistic performance differences between the bullets is much reduced and the 6.5X47L with an optimised load and hence good grouping ability is a very good choice at up to 600yd. At longer ranges, you can have a great deal of fun and will hit the black consistently, but will unfortunately be at a competitive disdavanatage to the 'big boys'. The pace in UK F-Class Open at long ranges is set by 7mmWSMs at 3,000 fps +. A 0.284" 180gn Berger VLD at 3,000 fps (and many competitors run at still higher MVs) travels at 1,736 fps and drifts 56" in a 10mph crosswind at 1,000yd, so any 6.5X47L combination is at a disadvantage.

I hope these thoughts help, and good shooting. The AI in 6.5X47L is great choice for a multi-purpose competition rifle.

Laurie,
York, England
 

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