I am going to build custom rifle and these are the two calibers I am looking at. I love .22 caliber rifles but i understand they are not the best for shooting out past 300 yards. I want to build a varmint rifle that will shoot out around 6-800 yards possibly 1000. I probably cant shoot that far but I want to gun to be able too. Any suggestions about anything would be great!
6.5mm creedmoor vs. .220 swift
- Thread starter groundhogassassin
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mikegaiz said:
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The 6.5 Creedmoor and the 260 Rem are ballistically identical. Exact same powder capacity the only difference would be in variation of capacity of different brass companies. The Creedmoor case has less taper and a sharper shoulder angle. It should be a little more efficient because of the shorter powder column.
IMO if you're looking at 6-800 yards build the CM, there are some great bullets for the 6.5 family. I shoot a 22-250, 1-12 twist and it shoots 55gr Sierra Gamekings great. At about 400 yards the wind starts really pushing it around. A 1-8 or 9 twist and a heavier bullet may be better but I still think the 6.5 would be better.
I have a 260 Remington that I just started loading for, in fact I loaded up the first test rounds last night. My rifle only has a 22" pencil barrel and will be used primarily for deer, but I will play with it to see how it shoots out to 500 yards or so.
I have a 260 Remington that I just started loading for, in fact I loaded up the first test rounds last night. My rifle only has a 22" pencil barrel and will be used primarily for deer, but I will play with it to see how it shoots out to 500 yards or so.
GHassasin -
Howdy !
A .220Swift, a .22-250AI ( or my wildcat .22-35 Rem ) would be viable .224" cal chamberings for out-as-far-as 1,000yd on a groundhog kill....... when paired w/ something like a 28" -29" 1-8 barrel;
and a bullet like 75gr "A"-Max.
.22-35 could propel 75"A"-Max to 3,500 ( sample load in 28" bbl ), on a charge of 40.5gr AA3100; and FED LR Magnum Match. I list this to give you some idea of what larger .224's might do.
By all means, do go for that 1,000yd shot(s) !
With regards,
357Mag
Howdy !
A .220Swift, a .22-250AI ( or my wildcat .22-35 Rem ) would be viable .224" cal chamberings for out-as-far-as 1,000yd on a groundhog kill....... when paired w/ something like a 28" -29" 1-8 barrel;
and a bullet like 75gr "A"-Max.
.22-35 could propel 75"A"-Max to 3,500 ( sample load in 28" bbl ), on a charge of 40.5gr AA3100; and FED LR Magnum Match. I list this to give you some idea of what larger .224's might do.
By all means, do go for that 1,000yd shot(s) !
With regards,
357Mag
The creedmoor and the .260 show about the same speed so how would the creedmoor be too slow but the .260 be fine? I can run down to 95gr pills out of it for around 2900-3200 fps depending on the powder and the load according to hodgdon reloading data. and the .260 data is nearly identical. That statement confuses me. I can see how the 260 would be more practical based on brass availability but other than that it shoots the same with the creedmoor being a better version. As for the .22 dasher, that sounds like a great round but I'm not really looking to have to fire form brass. I was looking more towards a caliber i could buy either unprimed brass, or factory ammo to shoot and save the brass from. Thanks for the input so far guys!
Outrider27
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You can take the route I took; one of each (I limit the swift to 400 yards, the CM when you really want to reach out there...). 
ShootDots said:
+1 for 22 recommendation of the Dasher. You'll be a master wind-reader in no-time at long range with a 22. Then you'll have a rifle throated for a long bullet, but the light bullets will have to jump a long way...
The 6.5 caliber would be less picky IMHO. 8.5 twist handles the 142 Sierra MK just fine.
mikegaiz said:
what would you consider a flatter shooting cartridge?
mac86951 said:
My thoughts exactly. I really can't think of a cartridge that is any flatter shooting other than maybe the 26 nosler? At the closer ranges I would say the swift, .22-250, and any other round moving above 3500fps would be considered flat shooting but not that I've really done some research, it seems that a fast shooting heavy bullet will shoot flatter at long range. Am I correct in saying this?
Thanks for all the info guys! I actually believe I am going to go with the 6x47 Lapua. Seems I can get what I want out of it pretty easily, and the brass is really easy to form.
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