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6.5-06 A Square, Lapua Brass, 147 and 140 eldm, Quickload Request

Guys I was wondering if any of you would be kind enough to run me some Quickload data for my 6.5-06 A Square. I cannot run GRT on my IPad which is all I have.
Particulars
147 and 140 hornady eldms and 145 Barnes match burners
147 seated OAL 3.387, 140 seated OAL 3.368. 145 Barnes Match Burner seated OAL 3.45. The Match burner is very long but no issue in my rig.
Lapua once fired Brass trimmed to 3.384. H20 capacity 68 grains
Rifle 6.5-06 a square with 26" criterion barrel
1 in 8 twist
Powder H1000
Federal 210m primer
If you should need any other data please don't hesitate to ask. Id sure appreciate anyone's help.
 
Here you go. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thank you Jon, What is confusing me is that I am getting much higher velocity on my chronograph than the data is showing. 56.5 with a 147 is giving me 3016fps. It could be a chrono problem but when I field checked H4831sc and 140s in the field my speed according to my drops was actually higher than the chronograph recorded. I admit 3016 with the 147 seems high. I guess I will have to get some data in the field to go with this.
 
Here is my Version....

147 ELD-M
H-1000


6.5-06Asquare 147eldm H1000.png
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140 ELD-M
H-1000


6.5-06Asquare 140eldm H1000.png
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145 Match Burner
H-1000


6.5-06Asquare 145 MB H1000.png
 
Is velocity very important ??
I say this because H-4831sc will get you superb accuracy without a compressed load.
RL-23 is also a superb powder for this combination. It yields excellent velocity and accuracy all around.

H-1000 is a good choice, but I'm not a huge fan of compressed load. If they're just slightly compressed then I'm ok with it.
 
Is velocity very important ??
I say this because H-4831sc will get you superb accuracy without a compressed load.
RL-23 is also a superb powder for this combination. It yields excellent velocity and accuracy all around.

H-1000 is a good choice, but I'm not a huge fan of compressed load. If they're just slightly compressed then I'm ok with it.
I would like to be. Above 2900fps with 147s and around or above 2950 with 140s. My H1000 loads believe it or not at 56.5 with 147s are not compressed. I can shake them and very
clearly hear the powder shaking inside. This barrel seems to like speed. The harder you drive it the more. Consistent and accurate the loads become. I use H4831sc as well and have a good load for 140 eldms with that at 2990 confirmed through drops to 900 yards. I’m not real concerned with barrel life as this is a remage system and barrels are very reasonable though I’d hope to get 12-1500 rounds out of it. I never shoot it hot. No long strings. Plenty of time between shots.
 
Thank you guys for your responses. That was what I needed. Quickload was right on the money for me with H4831sc. But with H1000, there is a large difference I'm getting in velocity for some reason. Unless my chrono is wrong. But drap tables say it's close
 
Thank you guys for your responses. That was what I needed. Quickload was right on the money for me with H4831sc. But with H1000, there is a large difference I'm getting in velocity for some reason. Unless my chrono is wrong. But drap tables say it's close

I've come across some powders in QL that don't match up with velocity at all. QL to me is just another reloading tool, not unlike printed data. I've used printed data with H-4831 in the 243win with 105amax, and velocity was off by 200+ fps !!!... I ended up going over 4 gr above Hodgdon's max and still didn't see any pressure signs ! Hodgdon's max was something like 41 gr and it took me 3 trips to the range to try and find actual max. I stopped at 45.6 gr and still no pressure signs. Best accuracy was at 43 gr... 2 gr above hodgdon't max.
 
I've come across some powders in QL that don't match up with velocity at all. QL to me is just another reloading tool, not unlike printed data. I've used printed data with H-4831 in the 243win with 105amax, and velocity was off by 200+ fps !!!... I ended up going over 4 gr above Hodgdon's max and still didn't see any pressure signs ! Hodgdon's max was something like 41 gr and it took me 3 trips to the range to try and find actual max. I stopped at 45.6 gr and still no pressure signs. Best accuracy was at 43 gr... 2 gr above hodgdon't max.
That is where I am exactly. Velocity is off approximately 150 to 180fps. Had one guy tell me I should never use data to see if I am safe but I have already worked up to max for this rifle which is at 58 grains. I would never use data alone. I've been loading a long time. 58 grains is where I hit pressure and it is 1.5 grains higher than my best load. It's just that my primer pockets seem to give up a bit early. Everything else, bolt lift, primers, case web measurements look really good. But I am up above max in all books and want the be careful. Thank you for your response and your help. It means a lot.
 
FWIW what is the capacity in gr H2O of a "standard" 6.5-06 supposed to be ? I see your A-Square is 61gr, and you are getting about 5-8 grains more powder in your loads than I do with 4831. - thanks
 
I am not
FWIW what is the capacity in gr H2O of a "standard" 6.5-06 supposed to be ? I see your A-Square is 61gr, and you are getting about 5-8 grains more powder in your loads than I do with 4831. - thanks
The only reference to that that I have found says 65.7. It does not say which case that is. I have checked h20 capacity for Winchester, Remington, Lapua, and Hornady. All fireformed to my chamber with the neck sized. Hornady gave the highest capacity at 70, Winchester next at 68.5. Remington and Lapua averaged 68 grains though Remington brass is slightly heavier. My chamber is called ASquare match which I was told is throated for the longer bullets when I chose it. I can seat the bullets out farther Which I'm sure allows for a little more powder space.
 
In 6.5-284 (which has the same capacity as 6.5-06 and 25-06) i never could get enough H1000 in the case to make it anything more than a 260 Remington. Rifle shot well with H4831, better with IMR 4831, but I liked it best with VV165. VV165 is even lower on the temp chart than H1000, and clean.
 
In 6.5-284 (which has the same capacity as 6.5-06 and 25-06) i never could get enough H1000 in the case to make it anything more than a 260 Remington. Rifle shot well with H4831, better with IMR 4831, but I liked it best with VV165. VV165 is even lower on the temp chart than H1000, and clean.
If my chronograph is correct 56.5 grains of H1000 under a 147 eldm gives me 3016fps and single digit es and Sd with new Lapua brass. I've been ill so I don't know how she will do with the Lapua once it fireforms to my chamber but I have some loaded to try. It is not a compressed load as I can shake the case and hear the powder inside. Unless that's the rocks in my head I'm hearing.
I have a good load for 140s in Win Brass with H4831sc running 2990. This one is confirmed by drops out to 900. Very consistent.
This barrel seems like the harder you run it the better it shoots.
I almost bought some VV165 to try but went with h1000 instead.
I seem to remember you have an acquaintance with the handle Jhusky that was somewhat of a guru on the 6.5-06. I always enjoyed reading yalls posts.
 
I PMed him years ago when i built this rifle he was a big help. He told me at that time had 2 260 rem, 1 6.5-284 and 2 6.5-06. He told me that the 260s were a little slower but not unusable slow. I asked why the 6.5-06s he said because he had a 55 drum full of LC match brass he had collected over the years shooting service rifles and high power. I've never meet him or shoot at the Hard rock range but we used to talk on Snipers Hide. I at first shoot 140 Amaxs, they did real well but they had to go so Hornaday could boost prices with the newer bullets. I haven't shot the 6.5 or any of my LR guns in a while, the 1000yd range at Mantee has closed, but I here that a few of the lanes have been reopened and I will soon get back there. I wish I had known of the coming of the heavy 6.5 bullets and got a faster twist, but no one saw that as the 140s were doing well and winning matches. I am itching to shoot my 7RUM now that i have solved it problems.
 
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Yessir mine is an 8 twist and will stabilize the 145s and 147s. It has been a learning process getting my brass right. The biggest issue has been finding loads with very low es and Sd. With this barrel that seems to come with more speed and hotter loads so I have been very cautious. I bought the 6.5-06 because I had plenty of brass and figured I'd never have an issue finding more. I know it's somewhat of a barrel burner but I run a Remage system on a Mack Brothers action and Criterion heavy varmint barrels run me about $400. I figure I'll burn a barrel out about every 3 years so that ain't too bad.
 

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