.45-70 Gov't questions

[normamag1]

Hey guys,Normamag1 here.Still busy trying to get my way around the site,bear with me.You may see me showing up in different places. Just snooping for any info on loading 450gr Barnes TSX in a .45-70.Seems a bit of a ghost. could not even find it on the Barnes site.I know it is a bit of a twitchy cal to do,I have already done a batch of 300gr and it worked fine using Ruger no.1 criteria. I am working my way up to some 535gr cast jobs,lots of data on them.Curious to know about what you all are using for bullet lube and what the deal is with "patching" loads, I know there are .45-70 gurus out there!! Well,thanx for all of your patience,NM1 ( Paul )

 

[watercam]

Hi Paul,
I am wondering whether the TSX in question would be too long to stabilize in conventional 45-70 twist barrels. Also, since it was designed for the .458 Mag. I wonder if it would expand at those velocities. Perhaps the Barnes Buster bullets would be an alternative. Very tough flat point that is jacketed.
Try the ASSRA Forum for those who delve into black powder loading. Very informative bunch there.

 

[M-61]

My most accurate load in a Marlin (1895-18 1/2" barrel) has been Hornady 325's with 3031. Although I have to load these individually as they will not feed. I am not sure the pointed bullet has much to do with the accuracy rather the right weight bullet-powder-barrel length combo.

 

[Kalitrazescapee]

My most accurate load in a Marlin (1895-18 1/2" barrel) has been Hornady 325's with 3031. Although I have to load these individually as they will not feed. I am not sure the pointed bullet has much to do with the accuracy rather the right weight bullet-powder-barrel length combo.

If you're loading the Hornady in std length brass they're too long... Hornady brass is shorter to cycle in marlin....same thing when loading Hornady brass it's not easy to crimp case.

 

[M-61]

If you're loading the Hornady in std length brass they're too long... Hornady brass is shorter to cycle in marlin....same thing when loading Hornady brass it's not easy to crimp case.

Yup. And I found that out and it just gave me another reason not to like Hornady!
But that combo single fed is the best I’ve found for accuracy.

 

[XTR]

10 yr old thread here.

 

[Adam in WI]

The Hornady brass is shorter because the FTX bullet has a longer nose profile. They had to shorten the case a touch to maintain overall length. I'd be curious to know if it is all Hornady brass, or only the FTX loading

 

[C_Ackley]

Some Winchester 1886(+clones) will feed the Hornady FTX in standard length brass(2.650 COAL). The longer length can grant a pretty decent bump in performance if yours will feed it.