44 Magnum, 240 grain JHP and Win296 min & max help?

[joshb]

Help needed please. I’m in Texas and my manuals are in Delaware. A guy here needs some 44 ammo and I can load it here, but I need the information to do it. Can somebody take a picture of a manual page please?
Thanks much?
Josh

 

[mike mccormick]

W296 and H110 are the same powder. Do not attempt light loads with these powders. For full power loads, 22-24 grains is the range.

 

[RegionRat]

That load was easy to remember because of the numbers. 240grain bullet, 24 grain load....

 

[GLShooter]

Hodgdon web page has it all.

 

[sdeeter19555]

Hodgdon's site has that load data, just looked it up.

 

[joshb]

W296 and H110 are the same powder. Do not attempt light loads with these powders. For full power loads, 22-24 grains is the range.

Thanks guys.
Yup Mike. Your “reduced loads” comment is my concern. I found a bag of 50 reloads in my cabinet that I thought I could give him. In the bag was my info sheet I put in every bag. It has “20 grains win296” written on it. The bag is maybe ten years old and that load didn’t sound right.
I used to shoot my 44 as my main target gun and loaded thousands of rounds for it. Here I am, ten years later, scratching my head. I know I would have loaded from a manual and I always tested loads in my gun before loading a bunch to shoot.
I searched the Hodgdon site and saw their data. I’m wondering what book I might have gotten the info from.
I’m going to pull these apart and give the guy a box of factory rounds I have. I’m just scratching my memory banks, wondering where I got this load.
Getting old sucks!

 

[mike mccormick]

Thanks guys.
Yup Mike. Your “reduced loads” comment is my concern. I found a bag of 50 reloads in my cabinet that I thought I could give him. In the bag was my info sheet I put in every bag. It has “20 grains win296” written on it. The bag is maybe ten years old and that load didn’t sound right.
I used to shoot my 44 as my main target gun and loaded thousands of rounds for it. Here I am, ten years later, scratching my head. I know I would have loaded from a manual and I always tested loads in my gun before loading a bunch to shoot.
I searched the Hodgdon site and saw their data. I’m wondering what book I might have gotten the info from.
I’m going to pull these apart and give the guy a box of factory rounds I have. I’m just scratching my memory banks, wondering where I got this load.
Getting old sucks!

Reloading manuals have varied considerably over the years. 20 grains is most likely safe, but I have found the 22-24 grain range to be reliable. A steady diet of 24 grainers will loosen up a good pistol over time

 

[243winxb]

Hornady photo. 23 grs , W296, with my cast 250 lswc works well. Magnum primers.

 

[joshb]

Hornady photo. 23 grs , W296, with my cast 250 lswc works well. Magnum primers.
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That’s it! Thank you very much for that pic! Now I know I’m not “losing it”! I usually loaded on the lighter side to be easier on the gun (and my wrist) but the “internet” was saying 20 grains was dangerous.
Thanks 243winbx!

 

[243winxb]

dangerous

This comes from the early 1996 Winchester 296 data. Not to reduce the powder charge as listed.

 

[RegionRat]

A steady diet of 24 grainers will loosen up a good pistol over time

Not a Ruger or Dan Wesson cause I have both of those and they keep on going, but yes a S&W 29 will not take it long at all.

BTW, that load data says Rifle not Pistol, so keep an eye open because there are both types.

 

[Cloudrepair]

May e this will help
7th addition

 

[Cloudrepair]

Or maybe this one the 7th also and a 6th addition

 

[Cloudrepair]

And a 9th

 

[Yote Hunter]

Load 22.9 gr W 296 with 240 gr bullets. Won’t beat the accuracy and still close to 2 gr below max

 

[243winxb]

A steady diet of 24 grainers will loosen up a good pistol over time

Very true of my Smith & Wesson 29-2. Even 23 grs is a bit much with 250 gr lswc.
Years ago, sent it back to S&W. Cylinder rotating backwards after firing for a long time. Barrel was set back. All new springs & new trigger.

Heavy loads of W296 caused peening (arrow) of the metal around the center pin . This caused the pin to stick inward. Fixed by removing pin and opening hole with the correct size drill bit. Installed new center pin.


Bought gun new, back in the day. Repair cost seemed low. I Sold S&W as a FFL years ago. Maybe why no parts charge?

 

[ebb]

I got a pound of Win 296 last week for my wife's 30 carbine. Looked it up on Hodgdon's site and noticed that starting load and max load were only 1 grain different. I have always been cautious with light loads of 2400 but this is a new powder to me.

 

[RegionRat]

starting load and max load were only 1 grain different

Yup, that's the way almost all the powders run in 30 Carbine. Only a one grain spread min to max. Love to shoot them, hate to feed them.... Be careful and have fun.

 

[hogpatrol]

I used 24 of 2400 in a Ruger wheel gun for deer hunting.

 

[Tommie]

Never understood why most manuals show different max loads between W296 and H110. Same exact powder. Must be variance in lots.