Bat Rastard
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I can only imagine how rude the recoil would be. I would like to shoot it once, but only once!
Enjoy your trip.
.44 Bullets For Bear....Again......
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Enjoy your trip.
JSH
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A smart man told me once for bears and critters with teeth and claws that will eat you.
A good accurate bullet with as much recoil as you can control for three shots at 15-25 yards.
You pick the bullet and performance.
Oh, the handgun should have all of the sharp edges and corners knocked off in case you didn’t get the job done. That way when they pull it out of your ads it won’t hurt so bad
FYI he has killed/hunted several bears with a handgun since the mid 80’s.
They say you can tell bear scat by look and smell. Smells like hot peppers with traces of nylon wind breakers and tennis shoes.
A good accurate bullet with as much recoil as you can control for three shots at 15-25 yards.
You pick the bullet and performance.
Oh, the handgun should have all of the sharp edges and corners knocked off in case you didn’t get the job done. That way when they pull it out of your ads it won’t hurt so bad
FYI he has killed/hunted several bears with a handgun since the mid 80’s.
They say you can tell bear scat by look and smell. Smells like hot peppers with traces of nylon wind breakers and tennis shoes.
You might have problems shooting 300g bullets in that light of a gun. The bullets can creep forward with recoil and lock up the cylinder if a very strong crimp isn't used. You would do well with a LBT style WFN/WLN hard cast over a max charge of W296/H110.
Mike
Mike
Shooting a Grizzly is a no win situation, they are federally protected. If you shoot a Black out of season you’ll have to show cause to the game warden.
Bear spray is preferred but I would still have a pistol just make sure you’re good at hitting first shot like Alex mentioned.
I see liberals camping out here in posted Bear country with coolers full of goodies and having BBQ’s then wonder why the bears are in the camp ground.
Bear spray is preferred but I would still have a pistol just make sure you’re good at hitting first shot like Alex mentioned.
I see liberals camping out here in posted Bear country with coolers full of goodies and having BBQ’s then wonder why the bears are in the camp ground.
k260
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If I had to shoot any bear there would be two reasons, a 7 year old and a 10 year old, so whatever I have to deal with after the fact is just something I'll have to deal with. There are a lot of campers in the area we're going to so I really don't expect to see any, and everybody there will have spray, but I have a lot more experience with a handgun under stress than I do a can of spray.....
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lets see: You are charged by a bear, any bear, running at full tilt. Mind you, bears can run at speeds of up to 35 mph. Are you going to calmly take careful aim like you do at the range or be shaking like a Mixmaster with absolute fear? You can't just shoot the bear anywhere. So, you'll wait till the big bruiser is within 20-25 yards at which point you have one shot and a follow-up (maybe). Between you and the bear, my money is on the bear. Personally, in that situation only a shotgun loaded with slugs is going to make me (somewhat) comfortable. If I was going to limit myself to a revolver, I'd want something heavier than 26 ounces for that follow up shot. A cross-draw chest holster would make carrying a heavier revolver much easier and easier to deploy.
k260
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Lets see: nope, my crystal ball still ain't working. I may not be as smart as you but I'm pretty sure nothing happens calmly in a hairy situation like that. Here's a tidbit of info so you can sleep better tonight, I will have a 12 gauge with me but my original question was in reference to bullets for the revolver that I'll be carrying on my belt, of which none of your wise ass comments answered. Thanks for your input.
I would actually like to know what would someone load in a G19 for a extreme unlikely encounter with a bear. I can imagine the responses coming.
k260
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LOL! Yep, never mind WHY you want to use a G19 they'll come at you with all kinds of crap about what to use besides a 9mm instead of answering the actual question. I thought that nonsense was just on Facebook but I was way off. During all this research I've actually come across a 9mm bullet that was made for bears and now that I'm thinking about it, that was probably meant for the 350 Legend as it uses the .355 bullet. I have read of bear encounters and the person had a 9mm pistol, not ideal for sure but it worked. If I knew for sure I would encounter a pissed off grizzly I surely wouldn't be concerned about what gun to carry, I'd stay home.
I have never shot shot a bear but have seen more than a few in wild
all black bears never a griz
A few at close range <20 feet
Every thing I have read and been told by guides that specialize in bears
is that to stop a charging bear you have to shoot it in the nose
a bears skull slopes alot and is thick enough a pistol bullet will not reliably pernitrate
and reach the brain
the nose is a small target in a high stress situation
all black bears never a griz
A few at close range <20 feet
Every thing I have read and been told by guides that specialize in bears
is that to stop a charging bear you have to shoot it in the nose
a bears skull slopes alot and is thick enough a pistol bullet will not reliably pernitrate
and reach the brain
the nose is a small target in a high stress situation
Assuming they’re hunted
There coming back in LA now and won’t let us hunt them till this year
They have no fear of humans at all, and they aren’t being fed by hand . They’ve just learned to associate people with food, trash, etc
Some friends were cooking breakfast at they’re camp and one walked into the yard
He kept getting closer even though they were yelling and throwing things at him
Even when two warning shots were fired
He barely sauntered off
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Rick in Oregon
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Saw this on the news and on another forum, so I shamelessly lifted it as it's relevant here:
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As in the world of self defense, a pistol is considered what you use as you make your way to your rifle. I think that applies here. In these situations, we must choose wisely.
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As in the world of self defense, a pistol is considered what you use as you make your way to your rifle. I think that applies here. In these situations, we must choose wisely.
Larryh128
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My bear spray is a 870 short barrel with slugs
L.Sherm
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A 12 guage shotgun with slugs and Buckshot alternated in my opinion for close range is the best if your not packing anything else, when I worked in Alaska thats all everbody packed. Ive carried a 44 and a 45 these days I prefer a 45 carried with a chest holster adding bear spray not a bad idea either.
Far as Black or Griz I trust none of them ive been charge twice by Black bears id rather have a weapon and not need it than not have it and need it. Once years ago I was hiking by myself and a Black bear charged me and I had no weapon the only thing close was a big limb and I picked it up and ran towards the bear and he turned an ran needless to say I had to clean my shorts out, never again have I went hiking again without a weapon. I felt very lucky that day.
Far as Black or Griz I trust none of them ive been charge twice by Black bears id rather have a weapon and not need it than not have it and need it. Once years ago I was hiking by myself and a Black bear charged me and I had no weapon the only thing close was a big limb and I picked it up and ran towards the bear and he turned an ran needless to say I had to clean my shorts out, never again have I went hiking again without a weapon. I felt very lucky that day.
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