.38 Spl in an early converted rifle
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bozo699
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I have no idea but interested in hearing the answers. If you don’t get any information you might go on YouTube and look up the Cinnabar ranch he took up gunsmithing and has a lot of old lever guns. Seems like a super down to earth guy, send him a email. He’s in Wyoming
Wayne
I'd have to ask, "What kind of rifle.?"
ISS
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Can I tell a funny story?
About 1965 my older brother had a '92 rifle converted from 32-20 to 357 Magnum.
We take it out to shoot, and a loaded round failed to fire, or even eject. We take it home, and he has it in the house in our bedroom trying to get the round out. He jacks the lever down hard, and then slams it shut.
BANG!! Rifle goes off. My folks bedroom is on the other side of that wall. We go around, but all we can find is the bullet hole thru the wall. Couple hours later, folks come home. My Mother is doing laundry, and goes to put her unmentionables in a drawer of their Chest of Drawers. "Scream!! Ed" rings out in their bedroom. Our Father comes in to see what is going on. Mother says "Ed, we have mice!. Father looks thru the drawer and says, "Be careful Honey, they're packing guns..." He finds a cast 357 slug. Immediately calls MY name.
Comes in our room and asks what I know. My brother is sitting there, and I just point at him. My Father looks at me and says "You are excused..."
A couple days later my Brother and I drive back to that gun shop with the rifle. The gunsmith fixed the problem, but I never trusted that 92' again.
About 1965 my older brother had a '92 rifle converted from 32-20 to 357 Magnum.
We take it out to shoot, and a loaded round failed to fire, or even eject. We take it home, and he has it in the house in our bedroom trying to get the round out. He jacks the lever down hard, and then slams it shut.
BANG!! Rifle goes off. My folks bedroom is on the other side of that wall. We go around, but all we can find is the bullet hole thru the wall. Couple hours later, folks come home. My Mother is doing laundry, and goes to put her unmentionables in a drawer of their Chest of Drawers. "Scream!! Ed" rings out in their bedroom. Our Father comes in to see what is going on. Mother says "Ed, we have mice!. Father looks thru the drawer and says, "Be careful Honey, they're packing guns..." He finds a cast 357 slug. Immediately calls MY name.
Comes in our room and asks what I know. My brother is sitting there, and I just point at him. My Father looks at me and says "You are excused..."
A couple days later my Brother and I drive back to that gun shop with the rifle. The gunsmith fixed the problem, but I never trusted that 92' again.
I'd be inclined to shoot a standard lead 158 grain LRN or LSWC 38 Special load, using Bullseye, W 231, Unique, etc.
While probably not an issue with today's semi-jacketed bullets but you wouldn't want to shoot a light load as I have heard of the jacket staying in the barrel and the lead core exiting.
hoz53
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i watched that guys whole video. its amazing the 1895s he has got. thanks for pointing it out.
bozo699
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This absolutely can happen!…may be off topic but years ago I bought several thousand rounds of Remington 38 special 158 jhp ammo from a local sporting goods store going out of business. We had shot some through a stub nose and other than they were whippy loads worked fine. One day we was headed up to build some fence and my wife ask me if she could take her new Smith 8 3/8” 38 I bought her along to do some plinking, I said sure. Later that day I stopped to work in a water trough so her and my youngest son started shooting…… I was about 40 yards away from them, after about her 3rd shot I heard something different I yelled don’t shoot again!!!
She said what’s wrong I said idk but your gun sounded different, she said I hit my target, I said give it to me!… the jacket was about 2” down the barrel! I got it out, reloaded and my first shot did it again and again! I didn’t know at the time so I unloaded every one of them tossed powder and bullets and reloaded them! Scary deal
Wayne
It would help to know what rifle. But even the 1873 Winchester design can handle most 38 SPL loads with no danger of action failure.
RegionRat
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If that rig was recently redone, aren't there proper cartridge markings on the new barrel?
Those re-barrel jobs will vary depending on who does them, but I am hoping you trust the source you bought it from for the story. If not, then it would be worth the time to inspect the barrel and receiver before testing.
@bozo699 , that Cinibar Ranch collection is museum worthy all by itself! The two of them clearly have a passion for their collections. That Winchester collector's organization may also be a good bunch of folks for the OP to ask.
Those re-barrel jobs will vary depending on who does them, but I am hoping you trust the source you bought it from for the story. If not, then it would be worth the time to inspect the barrel and receiver before testing.
@bozo699 , that Cinibar Ranch collection is museum worthy all by itself! The two of them clearly have a passion for their collections. That Winchester collector's organization may also be a good bunch of folks for the OP to ask.
bozo699
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Yes it sure is!… I think things got tight for him on his ranch that’s multiple generations old and I can totally understand that as I’m on a 4th headed for fifth generation ranch myself, anyways maybe a year or so ago he moved to Cody to work in a big gunsmith shop, he still owns the Cinnabar, my sister and I are planning a trip this spring to look at property in Wyoming hoping to move out of the communist state of Washington and I fully plan on contacting him I believe he’s a down to earth good old boy.
Wayne
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