30 Major

[JimPag]

I think that's the thing about this cartridge though. Is it better than a 30BR? Maybe not, but has anyone (other than maybe Mike) put enough time and effort into testing a Major vs a 30BR to truly know which one outperforms which? I doubt it.

The benefit to a Major is being able to use a PPC boltface, and not give anything up to a 30BR, while not having to mess around with brass. Rebate rims, open bolt face etc. Similar velocity, bullet selection, powder selection, and less recoil.

But that's really all this is, just another option. If it's not your cup of tea, don't drink it?

There is no way anyone can say that the 30 Major will out perform the 30BR and visa versa, there are way too many varibles. In the end the shooter is the one who makes it work or not, not the cartridge.

 

[Hoodoo]

There is no way anyone can say that the 30 Major will out perform the 30BR and visa versa, there are way too many varibles. In the end the shooter is the one who makes it work or not, not the cartridge.

Uhhh, is that not what I said?

 

[jimmymac]

Out of curiosity...I wonder what the velocity difference is between the two using the same bullet. Anyone have the data?

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Out of curiosity...I wonder what the velocity difference is between the two using the same bullet. Anyone have the data?

Mine like it right around 2975-3000fps. I've pushed it harder but that's just where they seem to be happiest.

 

[R.Morehouse]

No reason to push the 30Major to get it to shoot.

Out of curiosity...I wonder what the velocity difference is between the two using the same bullet. Anyone have the data?

I have not played with a 30BR. On my end with the Major.......30.6 N-120 118g Eazor 10og ES-9....SD-2.1....Ave-2940.

This set-up is as accurate as my ppc's on a good day.

Regards
Rick

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

No reason to push the 30Major to get it to shoot.

I have not played with a 30BR. On my end with the Major.......30.6 N-120 118g Eazor 10og ES-9....SD-2.1....Ave-2940.

This set-up is as accurate as my ppc's on a good day.

Regards
Rick

Hi Rick! What year is your n120?

 

[R.Morehouse]

Hi Rick! What year is your n120?

2012....

 

[txdan]

Mine like it right around 2975-3000fps. I've pushed it harder but that's just where they seem to be happiest.

The difference is Ronnie and Randy did not convert a HV PPC to 30 Major. If as many shooters were firing the Major as the 30 BR.....My Major did well at Gulf Coast Regionals, Junction city and Ault Co. I'll try it again at Junction City.

 

[jimmymac]

I’d like to shoot that gun Rick. Interested in the recoil comparison.

 

[JimPag]

Uhhh, is that not what I said?

No it isn't. You said that you would like to see someone put enough time and effort into testing to see which one outperforms the other. I'm saying that's not going to happen because when all is said and done it's the shooter who makes the difference. Like I stated before. I have been shooting my 30 Gorilla on and off for 6 seasons and a 30BR for 7. I've used Tubal 2000, N120 and H4198 in actual matches. I've tested IMR4227, and Norma 200 at home. I have done way better with a 30BR than with my Gorilla. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. IMO the 30 Major lacks the nuts at the longer yardages. You want to see how bad it performs at 300 meters, take it to the Tack driver in Orangeburg, SC in November 2020 and see how much you get used like a rented government mule with it.

 

[Hoodoo]

Finally got around to shooting over the chrono. Velocity was right at 2970. Playing with different seating depth . I'll shoot 35 on Tuesday in its first vfs match.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

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Finally got around to shooting over the chrono. Velocity was right at 2970. Playing with different seating depth . I'll shoot 35 on Tuesday in its first vfs match.

Sweet! But 35 what?

 

[Hoodoo]

Sweet! But 35 what?

35 is just a number on my seating di . If I remember right it should be around .010 jam.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Ok. That sounds about right. Good shooting!

 

[GlennK]

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Finally got around to shooting over the chrono. Velocity was right at 2970. Playing with different seating depth . I'll shoot 35 on Tuesday in its first vfs match.

Is that the secret bullet shooting zeros?

 

[Hoodoo]

Is that the secret bullet shooting zeros?

Lol, these are cheek bullets.

 

[GSPV]

Mine was 30.4 of the old N-120. It didn’t like 30.8.

 

[Jeffrey Tooker]

The difference is Ronnie and Randy did not convert a HV PPC to 30 Major. If as many shooters were firing the Major as the 30 BR.....My Major did well at Gulf Coast Regionals, Junction city and Ault Co. I'll try it again at Junction City.

I have looked all over the net for case capacity in grains of water for the 30 Major.
No joy. Does any one have the case capacity number? I have a barrel chambered in 30 Kern. It was chambered about 20 years ago in Seattle. It was a cast bullet cartridge. I can not find any info on it either. It is approximately 30 Major. I shoot
jacketed bullets in it now for plinking. I used 7.62 X 39 loading data to start.

Thank you.

Jeffrey

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I have looked all over the net for case capacity in grains of water for the 30 Major.
No joy. Does any one have the case capacity number? I have a barrel chambered in 30 Kern. It was chambered about 20 years ago in Seattle. It was a cast bullet cartridge. I can not find any info on it either. It is approximately 30 Major. I shoot
jacketed bullets in it now for plinking. I used 7.62 X 39 loading data to start.

Thank you.

Jeffrey

I'll get it for you today.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I have looked all over the net for case capacity in grains of water for the 30 Major.
No joy. Does any one have the case capacity number? I have a barrel chambered in 30 Kern. It was chambered about 20 years ago in Seattle. It was a cast bullet cartridge. I can not find any info on it either. It is approximately 30 Major. I shoot
jacketed bullets in it now for plinking. I used 7.62 X 39 loading data to start.

Thank you.

Jeffrey

Average of 10 was 37.7gr of water