30 BR or 30 x 47 for Hunter Class competition?

[the long shot]

I have been running a Ronnie Long built 30BR for NBRSA and LOVE the gun. I was skeptical about monkeying with necking up and turning brass to get a 30BR but found it was well worth it. I am now considering shooting Hunter Class for Score on top of HV VFS to shoot. Someone offered me a Hunter Class in 30 x 47 with dies, brass, gun, and bullets for a couple grand. Is the 30 x 47 worth monkeying with or should I seek a Hunter Class in 30BR? Maybe a new build?

 

[Lucky6547]

I thought the hunter class requires a certain powder capacity to prevent people from just using PPC’s and BR’s from dominating the class? That’s why there was even a 30x47, to have just enough powder capacity and the advantage of the bigger 30cal hole.

 

[RGRobinett]

Under NBRSA rules, the Hunter Class [minimum] case capacity rule was eliminated about three years ago: any capacity is legal, as is any caliber, I believe, up to .45 Cal. There is nothing wrong with a good 30x47 - it'll just burn about 20% more powder - but there will be many more suitable options. I believe that IBS Hunter Class rules still dictate 30/30, or, 45.0 Gr. water capacity, and minimum .23 caliber.

If they already have a VfS rifle, many new - to Hunter Class - shooters are opting for the 30BR, or whatever the VfS rig is chambered for, to eliminate having more dies/bullets/powder(s). If one already has the 30x47 gear, there is little to gain, via a 30BR, or similar, except recoil reduction. RG

 

[JimPag]

Under NBRSA rules, the Hunter Class [minimum] case capacity rule was eliminated about three years ago: any capacity is legal, as is any caliber, I believe, up to .45 Cal. There is nothing wrong with a good 30x47 - it'll just burn about 20% more powder - but there will be many more suitable options. I believe that IBS Hunter Class rules still dictate 30/30, or, 45.0 Gr. water capacity, and minimum .23 caliber.

If they already have a VfS rifle, many new - to Hunter Class - shooters are opting for the 30BR, or whatever the VfS rig is chambered for, eliminate having more dies/bullets/powder(s). If one already has the 30x47 gear, there is little to gain, over a 30BR, or similar, except recoil reduction. RG

Since the bulk of the Hunter class shooter's are from New England and most are from the state I live in , (Maine), most of them are using the 30BR in IBS Hunter class. The newer guy's have 30BR's and that caliber has dominated the 6 power class in the last 4 seasons.

 

[linekin]

I recently took up 2 guns in IBS score. I was offered both by my mentor but for me, being new to cf it made more sense to stick with the same caliber. 30br it is.
Don't know much about the 30x47, but as I look at the Hunter class, the clarity of scope is the single most limiting factor.

Keith

 

[GSPV]

The 30x47 Lapua is a great cartridge. It was an awesome solution when the minimum case capacity rule was in place.

Now, the extra capacity and recoil are a detriment and the cartridge is consigned to the history books.

And that’s a shame. It’s a nice little cartridge.

I shoot a 7x47 Lapua in varmint matches. It’s not exciting. It’s just a practical workhorse.

 

[KMart]

I shoot a 7x47 Lapua in varmint matches. It’s not exciting. It’s just a practical workhorse.

What 7mm bullets do you find suitable and accurate enough for this application?

 

[GSPV]

The Berger 168 grain VLD is a good example.
The Berger 150 Classic Hunter is a good place to start as it isn’t finicky about seating depth.

I’ve shot the 150 SMK a lot. Good, solid bullet.

My reamer allows me to shoot everything from 100 grain flat bases to the 168 gr VLD with the bottom of the full diameter of the bullet above the donut, touching the lands, and fit in a 308 AI mag.

It’s a nice little practical cartridge. A person could likely do just as well necking up the 6.5 Greedmoor. But, I haven’t done a detailed look into meeting the 308 mag requirement, if that’s an issue.

 

[the long shot]

Under NBRSA rules, the Hunter Class [minimum] case capacity rule was eliminated about three years ago: any capacity is legal, as is any caliber, I believe, up to .45 Cal. There is nothing wrong with a good 30x47 - it'll just burn about 20% more powder - but there will be many more suitable options. I believe that IBS Hunter Class rules still dictate 30/30, or, 45.0 Gr. water capacity, and minimum .23 caliber.

If they already have a VfS rifle, many new - to Hunter Class - shooters are opting for the 30BR, or whatever the VfS rig is chambered for, eliminate having more dies/bullets/powder(s). If one already has the 30x47 gear, there is little to gain, over a 30BR, or similar, except recoil reduction. RG

Missed you at the Webster City match on Saturday. Did you shoot on Sunday?

 

[ImBIllT]

Well if they eliminated the case capacity rule, then I don’t see any reason not to use the 30BR.

 

[GSPV]

Well if they eliminated the case capacity rule, then I don’t see any reason not to use the 30BR.

Yep. And that’s why you see 30x47 barrels and equipment at bargain basement prices.

 

[KMart]

It’s a nice little practical cartridge. A person could likely do just as well necking up the 6.5 Greedmoor. But, I haven’t done a detailed look into meeting the 308 mag requirement, if that’s an issue.

Hornady called that one the 30TC. Thompson produced rifles in that chambering, but Hornady was just learning marketing. A couple of years later they presented us with the 6.5 Creed.

 

[GSPV]

It’s a cool cartridge. Shame it didn’t catch on.

 

[joshb]

Well, it’s not dead yet. I just had a barrel chambered for it.

 

[GSPV]

I think that it’s dead as a hammer both as a commercial cartridge and as a HBR cartridge.

I’d think that some enterprising UBR competitor would start campaigning one in Unlimited. If I ever get to a place where I can shoot again, I’ll think about it seriously myself.

 

[rangertim]

When did the IBS do away with the case capacity in Hunter BR you could use a 30 or a 6 BR in Varmit hunter. I know they did away with it in the NBRSA but not in the IBS every match Report I looked at this year with guys shooting in hunter class was still shooting a 47 or 44 or a variant ! Now the Varmit Hunters listed 30BR and PPC. I was looking to go to the IBS Nationals since the date changed and working on Brass for a 30x47 Barrel I had

 

[GSPV]

I can’t keep up with IBS and NBrSA. Everyone around here has went to UBR. With the “caliber neutral target” (as long as it is 22, 6mm, or30), I don’t see any reason to shoot a 30 (except maybe In unlimited). When I get a chance to shoot again, I’ll just build a PPC and be done with it.

 

[rangertim]

I'm sure someone has the correct answer on case capacity for IBS Hunter Class ! I know their isn't to many HBR Shooters left over in IBS county !

 

[JimPag]

I'm sure someone has the correct answer on case capacity for IBS Hunter Class ! I know their isn't to many HBR Shooters left over in IBS county !

Tim. There is still has the no less than 30-30 case capacity which is 45 grains in the Hunter Class, but not in the VH class. Since they combined the class not too long ago more people who want to shoot 6 power have opted to build a VH rifle, instead of a Hunter because most people think that a 30BR is easier to shoot than a 30x44, 46, or 47. Even though the 2 classes are combined they still separate each as far as records go.

 

[rangertim]

Tim. There is still has the no less than 30-30 case capacity which is 45 grains in the Hunter Class, but not in the VH class. Since they combined the class not too long ago more people who want to shoot 6 power have opted to build a VH rifle, instead of a Hunter because most people think that a 30BR is easier to shoot than a 30x44, 46, or 47. Even though the 2 classes are combined they still separate each as far as records go.

But I don't think the Nationals have a VH class ! It's either VFS or HBR ! case capacity of 30/30 of more if you shoot 6x at the Nationals!