30 BR load
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Jason Boersma
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H4198 is the best powder for the 30br
Jason Boersma
Silver $$ Contributor
I personally have not, had no reason to, shot at Webster city, Ia and everybody shot h4198. There is something about that powder that makes it perfect for that case.
A while back on benchrest.com I read a post by Jackie Schmidt who mentioned having good results with one of the Norma powders. Since I have a lifetime supply of 4198 I did not pay close attention to which Norma he had used. I am sure a search of the archives would be profitable, but it seems like no retailer has any Norma powder these days, anyway.............. 
blvedere said:
While I have not tried A5744 yet, I have used a fair amount of H-4227, with very pleasing results (a decent pile of "fake wood" ;D), @ MVs just short of 3K FPS. The temptation with the latter, is to, "put more in", as there is PLENTY of empty space! With the H4227, and 112 - 118 Gr. bullets, I can easily get in excess of 3150 FPS, however, above 2990 FPS, could never get the desired precision. When we first began messing with the 30 BRs, I either acquired, or, already had stashes of A-680; Win. 1680, H-4227, A5744, RL-7, N-130, H-322, N-133, and, H-4198 . . . for some reason, the A5744 is the only one I never tried.
Experience, with the specific LOTS of those powders, led me to relying on the H-4227, H-322(Extreme), or, the H-4198 - all of these have won many Grand Aggs. for me. Others have experienced different results. With a new barrel, it's a good idea to check several, as one may prove more consistent, or, just plain "better".
A couple of years ago, I was discussing the potential for A5744 with a fellow who had a stash of it, and also had/has QuickLoad, so, he ran off some "data" - the [QuickLoad] results looked VERY promising - for both pressure and velocity. He called back and informed me that it - the A 5744 - "shoots"! If you're an experienced wild-catter, start low, and work up, it's worth a trial: as listed on most burn-rate charts, it is both bulkier, and slightly "slower" than the H4227. But don't ever trust a burn-rate chart - they provide only a, general ["on the same block"] comparison!
Sorry, I do not have QL. RG
GSPV
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Mike Ezell, gunsandgunsmithing on here, has used 5744 in the 30 Major, which has slightly less capacity than the 30 BR, and liked it.
You might also try LT-32. I shoot it in the 30 Major and like it other than the pain of it completely filling the case.
You might also try LT-32. I shoot it in the 30 Major and like it other than the pain of it completely filling the case.
blvedere said:
Absolutely not. Although there are a couple others, H-4198 is a proven winner year after year. Try different loads or different bullets if curious or bored. The history, science, and passed on experience by its best drivers is here: http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/30br/
stool
well here is one that does not read.....randy...co founder of 30br..just said other wise...
look up a little and read...
look up a little and read...
Outdoorsman said:blvedere said:
Absolutely not. Although there are a couple others, H-4198 is a proven winner year after year. Try different loads or different bullets if curious or bored. The history, science, and passed on experience by its best drivers is here: http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/30br/
stool said:well here is one that does not read.....randy...co founder of 30br..just said other wise...
look up a little and read...
Don't know if you reload or not. But trying different bullets and powders is what reloading, for accuracy, is all about, to see what your rifle likes. For me it is far from boring, don't know your situation.Outdoorsman said:blvedere said:
Absolutely not. Although there are a couple others, H-4198 is a proven winner year after year. Try different loads or different bullets if curious or bored. The history, science, and passed on experience by its best drivers is here: http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/30br/
tenring said:
N160?
Maybe finger error, do you mean N130?
G.
stool said:well here is one that does not read.....randy...co founder of 30br..just said other wise...
look up a little and read...
Outdoorsman said:blvedere said:
Absolutely not. Although there are a couple others, H-4198 is a proven winner year after year. Try different loads or different bullets if curious or bored. The history, science, and passed on experience by its best drivers is here: http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/30br/
Instead of jumping all over the powder-map with a variety of powders, once I find a proven powder and load, I'd rather spend the rest of my time shooting over a good set of wind flags. The more time the better. That's where the greatest improvement comes from, once bullets are going through the same hole with a chosen load.
I've spoken to Randy many times [check that, I've listened to Randy many times] and he's proven invaluable with his graciously passed on knowledge and experience. He's an asset to the sport and a real gentleman.
I've concluded through my use and his and others recommendations [Nyhus, Rivers, Entrekin] that H-4198 is a very stable propellant under all kinds of conditions. Having found that to be the case, I've elected to spend the majority of my time working on a constantly changing challenge, the Wind.
The powder has been worked out, spend time where the greatest improvement in your shooting skills will come from.
+1 on the above.
H4198 has been the mainstay powder of the .30 BR for many years. Some others have shot well, but the longest-lasting choice is H 4198.
Use the information from Randy, Al, Henry, et al and practice in the wind with flags. Learn your rifle. Give it what it wants. Trust it.
H4198 has been the mainstay powder of the .30 BR for many years. Some others have shot well, but the longest-lasting choice is H 4198.
Use the information from Randy, Al, Henry, et al and practice in the wind with flags. Learn your rifle. Give it what it wants. Trust it.
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