28 Nosler
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How is it different from a STW?
They say it is the same as the 26 only necked up to.284. I already like it just from reading. Maybe a Remage build down the road.
Look at the wind drift at 1,000 yards if you launch a 180 grain JLK at 3,100 fps from your F/O rig. I'm seeing 45" drift in a 10 mph crosswind, and 15" drift in the same wind at 600 yards. Yikes! But I'm sure no one is going to do that for a 120 shot 2-day match. Probably not until near the end of February, anyway.
Ledd Slinger
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Nothing new to the world of wildcatters here..... :
There's already been 7mm versions off the 375 Ruger case such as the 7mm-375 Ruger and the 7 LRM. Then you have the 7mm Dakota. All basically the same round performance wise and all fit in normal Magnum actions. So the 28 Nosler is really nothing different. Will have no better performance than the 7mm STW, 7mm Ultra Mag or any of the three cartridges I listed above. If you think you can seat a 180gr Berger in that case while using most standard Magnum action magazines without taking up a good amount of case capacity, you might be disappointed. Single shot it will be fine of course. But that sucker is gonna be LONG if you want to keep that bullet out of the shoulder.
Reamer and dies are readily available for all the cartridges I listed as well and have been for a long while now...So the 28 Nosler is anything BUT a new and innovative design.
How's that for hating?
There's already been 7mm versions off the 375 Ruger case such as the 7mm-375 Ruger and the 7 LRM. Then you have the 7mm Dakota. All basically the same round performance wise and all fit in normal Magnum actions. So the 28 Nosler is really nothing different. Will have no better performance than the 7mm STW, 7mm Ultra Mag or any of the three cartridges I listed above. If you think you can seat a 180gr Berger in that case while using most standard Magnum action magazines without taking up a good amount of case capacity, you might be disappointed. Single shot it will be fine of course. But that sucker is gonna be LONG if you want to keep that bullet out of the shoulder.Reamer and dies are readily available for all the cartridges I listed as well and have been for a long while now...So the 28 Nosler is anything BUT a new and innovative design.
How's that for hating?
mshelton
Wouldn't this just be a a 7mm ultra mag?
hogpatrol said:I'm working with a .26 Nosler, shooting two shots and letting it cool to ambient. 100 rounds so far and length to ogive has increased .001, a real barrel burner. :
Wow, chasing the lands will be a full time job.
I think this would be an awesome cartridge for a hunting rifle as long as a guy gets a good load developed before the barrel turns to scrap.
hogpatrol said:I'm working with a .26 Nosler, shooting two shots and letting it cool to ambient. 100 rounds so far and length to ogive has increased .001, a real barrel burner. :
For a hunting cartridge where you might just fire 2 shots every few hours or less, the barrel will likely last years. I am not a fan of big overbore cartridges for F Class but a hunting rifle which moves the throat .001" every 100 shots will last me a lot of years.
CJ6
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Is there really any useful difference between the 28 Nos and the 7mm Dakota ? I think if the Dakota line of cartridges had been more readily available (other manufacturers making guns chambered for them) (I know propriety :),but I believe they'd be in bigger use/demand.
),but I believe they'd be in bigger use/demand.
Ledd Slinger
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It's a good hunting cartridge being marketed to the current long range hunting fad. It will work well for that. But it has no place in competition. It's barrel would probably be toast in one or two matches of any type of shooting competition. The heat from a 10 or maybe even 20 shot group in a relay would be so high that it would surely be throwing fliers all over the paper
hogpatrol
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Spin Drift said:hogpatrol said:I'm working with a .26 Nosler, shooting two shots and letting it cool to ambient. 100 rounds so far and length to ogive has increased .001, a real barrel burner. :
Wow, chasing the lands will be a full time job.
I think this would be an awesome cartridge for a hunting rifle as long as a guy gets a good load developed before the barrel turns to scrap.
You missed it. Gauging with the Hornady tool will give + or - .001 so in reality, the length hasn't moved since new.
This is on a stainless Lilja #3 fluted. Loading 84 of RL33's giving me right at 3500 1/2 minute. Going to do a Brux, same contour and have it nitrided.effendude
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I am interested in it as a hunting rifle cartridge. As it designed for a standard length action, by using a magnum length action will eliminate most of the bullet seating issues. Nosler brass is way better than Hornady, and quality dies will be easier to come by. A very efficient case design, and no belt to boot.
As far as a LR F-Open cartridge, I am sure someone will give it a try. If I had a magnum bolt for a Barnard, I might. If Berger ever comes out with the heavy 7mm bullet, this case will have the capacity to push it. Shooters are already successfully using the 7WSM/RSAUM cartridges. Brass life would be better with the bigger case as well. I run a 284 Shehane and by the time I fireform, I only get 4-5 firings on the brass. I doubt this barrel is going to get any warmer than a short mag in a 10 minute 22 shot string.
Scott
As far as a LR F-Open cartridge, I am sure someone will give it a try. If I had a magnum bolt for a Barnard, I might. If Berger ever comes out with the heavy 7mm bullet, this case will have the capacity to push it. Shooters are already successfully using the 7WSM/RSAUM cartridges. Brass life would be better with the bigger case as well. I run a 284 Shehane and by the time I fireform, I only get 4-5 firings on the brass. I doubt this barrel is going to get any warmer than a short mag in a 10 minute 22 shot string.
Scott
The 28 is certainly no match cartridge. Likely too much recoil for a day of match shooting, and too overbore for any meaningful barrel life under match conditions.
It is however, I think, likely to be a dandy hunting cartridge. I think it the goldilocks of the big 7 mags. Not too big (ultra), not too small (7mm rem mag). Just right.
It's not much different than an STW but without a belt, which I think is a PITA. It's not too much different than a LRM but with better brass and dies (sorry, not a fan of Hornady for either). It's not too much different than a Dakota, except that its non proprietary. Subtle distinctions to be sure, but enough.
-nosualc
It is however, I think, likely to be a dandy hunting cartridge. I think it the goldilocks of the big 7 mags. Not too big (ultra), not too small (7mm rem mag). Just right.
It's not much different than an STW but without a belt, which I think is a PITA. It's not too much different than a LRM but with better brass and dies (sorry, not a fan of Hornady for either). It's not too much different than a Dakota, except that its non proprietary. Subtle distinctions to be sure, but enough.
-nosualc
mshelton
Heman said:
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