Which would you choose out of the 2? This is going to be a custom build with a TL3 action and Bartlein barrel, Purpose of the build is long range shooting out to 2k yards which is the farthest any range within 8 hours of me has available!
28 Nosler or 7 PRC Build?
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FeMan
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Both will make it there but I would go for the PRC. The 28 Nosler erode throats quickly and have a reputation for being hard to keep in tune from what I have heard. The PRC is less over bore and has a shorter powder column so it should be more stable with significantly longer barrel life.
Orr89rocz
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I went with a 28 and what i read was it is hard on throats but wasnt hard to tune or find a load for. Others results here seem like the 28 makes a great long range hunting round with good accuracy. For target with higher round counts, idk if it would be that great? Idk how well the prc would be in life but probably better for life
Alex Wheeler
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Id be looking at a 338 for that distance, seriously.
Neither.... if you're serious, the minimum would be 338, even past on the 338 Lapua ... way past. The 33XC is the beginning of the bottom of the cartridge list here.. the .375XC better and then the 41XC & 416 Barret... in this class is where ya need to be. Look at the rifles of the 2 mile top shooters, or check out David Tubbs cartridges and ideas, he has lots of experience here, saw him put 5 rds in target at 1950 yds with first shot cold bore.
Not that you couldn't hit the target with a 7 mm something...even a 7mm mauser or 308 Win..but the lesser cartridges put you at a big disadvantage to start with.
Not that you couldn't hit the target with a 7 mm something...even a 7mm mauser or 308 Win..but the lesser cartridges put you at a big disadvantage to start with.
A friend and I were shooting out to 1816 yards with my 28 Yukon (Long Neck version of 28 Nosler with a 2gr powder reduction) and his 28 Nosler with the Berger 195 gr @ 3150 fps +/- and they performed pretty well (3 shot groups). I shot a 16” (All horizontal) group in switchy winds (8 mph maybe) and he shot a 9” group when the winds subsided late that afternoon. Are they ideal cartridges…no but they performed very respectable. If a 7mm PRC can achieve 3050 fps with a 190 ATIP or 195 gr EOL then I would recommend that over a Nosler for saving your barrel and more efficient.
338LM Improved and 300gr ATips
MAGNUM44270
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Prc.. 28 nos is too finicky
With N570 or reloader 33 alot of customers were getting .010-.015 throat erosion per 100 rounds in the 28 nosler. While Ive built hundreds of noslers I haven't built more than a handful in the last 3 years. Whenever customers have shot their barrels out theyve gone with 30 cal magnums. Barrels usually lasted around 600 rounds with those powders in a nosler. You cant shoot the difference in wind drift between a 28 nosler and a 30 cal and the barrel life is substantially longer in the 30 cals. Your better off getting a 30 cal and shooting 220, 230 or 245 bergers. The 220 bergers have been extremely easy to tune in the norma improved and 300 prc's customers have shot them in. The bc is as high as the 230s but its going faster. A month or so ago i finished up load development for a buddys 300 prc I built him with 220 bergers and I shot a 1.4" group at 580 and he grabbed the gun and then shot a 2.2" @1000 with it. This was in a lightweight carbon barrel build. The norma improved will push the 220s extremely fast. I just finished an ELR setup for a Gary Costello and I didn't have pressure with 220s at just under 3400 fps in a 34" barrel. No bolt clicks on that piece of brass that was fired 10xs in his barrel. No pressure signs either. I just ran out of daylight to keep adding powder and testing. The barrel hadn't sped up either at that point as it only had 10 shots down the barrel. Plug a 220 berger in at 3300-3400 fps and its stupid flat. I did some long 338 barrels for him as well in the norma improved and with h1000 and other barrel friendly powders itll send a 300 gr berger at 3000+ fps. Thats 33xc performance with 4xs the barrel life and 30 gr less powder. Will your 7mm shoot at 2000 yds? Yes but these options are way better and the splash kicked up by a miss will be alot more noticeable as well vs a 180 gr 7mm.
Davidheart
Joshua - Hunt 12;10
Depends on what you want. Look up Mark and Sam After Work on YouTube. They ran a 308 to 3000 yards. Not like it'll be easy but you need to define your definition of fun. After all that's why you're doing this.
If a 7mm is fun to you, run it.
If a 7mm is fun to you, run it.
Not much background info in your OP, so I'll digress.
Have you shot that far? Can you regularly ring steel at 1K or 1500?
About 10 years ago there was a thread on Sniper's Hide where two shooters went out to the desert, west of SLC, and shot a mile. The one shooting a 7 RUM regularly rang steel, the other, shooting (IIRC) a 338 Lapua, never hit. I've known Tooele and the surrounding area to be pretty windy.
My point being, at that distance, your skill matters more than the cartridge.
You might get 700-900 rounds out of a 28 Nosler before the barrel is roached, and +/- 1200 out of a 7PRC. You'll likely burn through at least one barrel getting there consistently.
I'd go for the PRC.
The PRC cartridges, Edge variants, RUMs and Nosler big boys all have the same bolt face.
Get the PRC, have your receiver fitted with an extended box magazine, hone your skill with the longest life barrels and then move up to the bigger cartridges with a barrel swap.
Or just get more guns -- mo' betta!
Have you shot that far? Can you regularly ring steel at 1K or 1500?
About 10 years ago there was a thread on Sniper's Hide where two shooters went out to the desert, west of SLC, and shot a mile. The one shooting a 7 RUM regularly rang steel, the other, shooting (IIRC) a 338 Lapua, never hit. I've known Tooele and the surrounding area to be pretty windy.
My point being, at that distance, your skill matters more than the cartridge.
You might get 700-900 rounds out of a 28 Nosler before the barrel is roached, and +/- 1200 out of a 7PRC. You'll likely burn through at least one barrel getting there consistently.
I'd go for the PRC.
The PRC cartridges, Edge variants, RUMs and Nosler big boys all have the same bolt face.
Get the PRC, have your receiver fitted with an extended box magazine, hone your skill with the longest life barrels and then move up to the bigger cartridges with a barrel swap.
Or just get more guns -- mo' betta!
We had a group of newish shooters with my 7 saum and a 338 Norma going after steel at a mile.
None of the new shooters hit it with the 338(which shoots VERY well) and were smashing it with my 7mm, it was just far easier to shoot without a real wind penalty.
Spotting was it’s only real penalty.
Recoil got the better of them with the 338?
Exactly
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