270 Win Long range?

[bootlaceb]

I have been looking at building something in the 284, 6XC range. Is there any reason why the 270WIN cannot fit the profile here? Looking at 1000yrd max.
As far as I can see, it stays over 1000ft/s at that range with a good 130gr bullet...Berger makes VLD's for them...
I have read a hundred blogs on the good and bad of the 270, but nothing seems conclusive about long range...any constructive criticism please!

 

[Raptor]

No good bullets. Go with a 284 or a 280 Remington if you don't want to shoot the magnums. In the lighter calibers go with a 6.5x284, 6.5x55, 6.5x47 or 6.5 Creedmore or 260. In the 6MM go with a 6XC, 243 or one of the 6mmBR varriants.

You have alot of great rounds to choose from. If you have a long action my choice depending on what your going to do would be the 284 or 280 or 6.5x284 or 6.5x55 for 1000yd shooting. Then any of the others for anything else.

 

[cliffe]

i think it is easier to build something a little more popular, you can go to the 6.5-284 info page and it is all laid out for you. suggested loads, alot of choices for bullets. not saying you couldn't do a 270, but there is less info, fewer bullets to choose from, say your 270 doesn't like bergers, not alot of other high b.c. target bullets to choose from.270 is still a great deer hunting round. i would suggest looking around on this site from the info pages to the archived articles, there is alot of good info, also check out the guns of the week and see what other people have built. good luck with whatever you decide to build, cliffe

 

[Cheechako]

boot

You've gotten a couple of suggestions as to other cartridges and calibers, but that's not what you asked for is it?

The 270 Winchester, with good longrange bullets, in a good barrel, with good brass, and a good load, will be just as competitive as any other cartridge you, or anyone else can name. The problem with the 270 has always been the lack of good bullets. Your choice is still pretty limited but they are available.

I've not tried the Bergers or any other custom 270 bullets but there is nothing inherently fatal about that particular diameter. Most of us can remember when the same arguements were aimed at the 6.5mm, and I can remember when the 6mm was the bad boy. The 25 caliber will be next, I'm sure.

Don't pay any attention to the nay-sayers. ,Or to me either.) Do what you want to do, kick some butt with the 270 and the answers will change in a hurry.

JMHO

Ray

 

[Raptor]

Ray,
I took it he did ask about other cartridges and calibers. The 270 is a good round but there are better rounds for longrange shooting in my opinion.

As was mentioned you are restricted by your bullet choice with the 270s I feel he would be better served to look at something different since he is in the process of looking to build.

 

[bootlaceb]

Ray

You read it well..
Let me explain the reasoning for my question, I have a semi custom 270 on hand. With it, I have Match Dies, good brass and a good understanding of the cartridge.
So other than the availability of good bullets, are there any actual negative aspects I should look at. I know asking the same for doing Benchrest is being stupid...but doing it in 1000yrd F-Class..? It is accurate and fast.
So like Raptor says, there are other better choices. Is that because of the Bullets avail, or actual Cartridge?
I have a 6BR and a 308Win. But the idea of some more speed is always intruiging,and with having most of the components already, it kind of made sense looking into it.

 

[Raptor]

bootlaceb,
I didn't realize you already had the 270. If you have one already by all means give it a try!!

Like someone mentioned Berger makes a match bullet for it and NoslerBTs shoot nearly as well as some match bullets.

I thought you were going to build a rifle and was asking why not a 270?? Its just not a good choice for the reason of bullet selection.,Which is my opinion only)

 

[BigJim]

bootlaceb, I may have missed it but who is the manufacture of your 270? I like mine but use it for hunting only. Having said that the best thing you could do is put a new trigger on it to help improve your groups. That is the down side of hunting calibers such as the 270, decent but not great triggers. Second is weight you may want to add weight to the rifle if you are going to use it as a bench rest gun.,or replace the stock with a BR one.),You did say you want to use it in F-Class?) Third is to make sure you stock is glass bedded and there is no part of the barrel that is rubbing on the stock. You can shoot 1000 yrds with any thing from 223 to 30-06 or 50 cal even,LOL). Most 1k guns are built for the purpose of giving you the most accuracy at that distance, it is a balance between power and speed. The Fins use .338 our US teams use 300 mag. More powder to push heavier bullets down range. The 270 is a good flat shooting bullet, but does it have the same punch and push, maybe not. If you are serious about comps at 1000 yrs re-barrel it for what our military shooting teams are using.

Good luck and good shooting

Jim

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

Kirby Allen shoots his 270AM at 1500yds and beyond. Bullets are out there too. There are allot of custom bullet makers also. Go to www.longranehunting.com and look around.

 

[2644ever]

Thanks for the link, ICHHM, but it's actually:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/
Re the .270 Win, I just don't see why it couldn't shoot straight to 1,000 yards provided everything from barrel to bullets is top notch and up to the task... Apart from Berger and Nosler, you also got some decent stuff from Sierra and Hornady. These bullets combined with modern powders like the series 5XX by VV or the new Hodgdon should help you reach those distant targets. You'll never be sure if you do not give it a try.

 

[omahaguy]

I own a .270 win in a sig shr that I load 150 gr sst, re 22, win brass, BR primers, and I get 5 shots in a 1/2' @ 100 yards no problems.!!!..
hornady and sierra have good bullets dont believe the hype about it not being accurate..

 

[Shootndig]

The only reason everyone isn't extolling the virtues of either the .257 or the .270 and the 20 or so variants of each,including who knows how many match cartridges that would have followed) is that at some time in their development a bean counter who couldn't throw a wad of paper across a room and hit a trash can decided that it was a good idea to build more and better 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm, and 30 cal. bullets. But, because there isn't the bullet selection, there is no 25br or 27-284 or 27x47L or whatever. There really isn't anything wrong with the .257 or the .270, and the cartridges we do have can be something to behold if you are lucky enough to find a bullet that fills the intended purpose.

 

[kevinbritvec]

Try Sierra's 135 grain Match King at 3000 +/- fps and see how it shoots.

 

[longhunter43071]

Now you got me thinking about my .270!!That's all I need is another project.Darn!!!

 

[omahaguy]

I get my 150 grain sst up to 3000fps, itll hit bout 1400yards before going transonic but it has no problems staying stable through the transition.....