22lr decision-gun type

[nakneker]

You gotta love 22lr rifles. The choices are endless. Out of three the OP mentioned I would go with Anshutz but I love sakos too. I’ve enjoyed a lot of rimfire rifles and the Anshutz and sakos have always delivered and retain their value well. I also have a love for some of old Winchesters, I know everyone loves the 52, I do too but I’ve also had a lot of fun with other models mainly the 75. Kimber comes to mind when your talking blue/nice wood. Never owned a Copper, this is not the first time I’ve seen negative feedback with their rimfires but I haven’t tried one personally. Anshutz or Sako? There is no wrong choice between those two.

 

[FryeGuy]

My only hope is one of them is still around in 2 weeks!!!!

 

[FryeGuy]

Or maybe a week. I will learn to be patient when I die i guess

 

[dolek]

Or maybe a week. I will learn to be patient when I die i guess

I feel the same way,no time like the present . I had the itch for a new 22 yesterday ...this started at about 1pm . By 3pm I was in my Wife's car to get a CZ 455...best part was she gave me money and gassed the car up on the way home from work . Married 30 something years and has always supported my gun habit,I am a lucky man...and She reminds me of that at times. I am sure if you share my story with your wife you will have that gun in your hands very soon... with her paying for half of it, just like mine.

 

[Thomasconnor]

I own a few of each, including P94S.

I hope you realize how heavy a 1710HB is. It is doubtful you'll be firing it standing.

My Coopers all run fine. The bad ones are bad from the get-go.

Regarding accuracy, no two are the same. A Cooper can easily be more accurate than an Anschutz, and vice versa. Ditto for Sako.

Within makes and even models, no two shoot the same.

You have a unique opportunity to ask the owner(s) about accuracy and targets. See if your wife will allow that while you wait.

If someone tells you how accurate theirs is, ask them to sell it to you.

This thread needs a picture!...Tom

 

[JimT]

I own a few of each, including P94S.

I hope you realize how heavy a 1710HB is. It is doubtful you'll be firing it standing.

My Coopers all run fine. The bad ones are bad from the get-go.

Regarding accuracy, no two are the same. A Cooper can easily be more accurate than an Anschutz, and vice versa. Ditto for Sako.

Within makes and even models, no two shoot the same.

You have a unique opportunity to ask the owner(s) about accuracy and targets. See if your wife will allow that while you wait.

If someone tells you how accurate theirs is, ask them to sell it to you.

This thread needs a picture!...Tom

Yeah, no two are the same, that’s why Cooper never won an Olympic ( maybe special Olympics??) gold medal. My wife won’t let me buy anything but an Anschutz, although I am trying to convince her to let me buy a Steyr Zephyr II!!

 

[Thomasconnor]

Yeah, no two are the same, that’s why Cooper never won an Olympic ( maybe special Olympics??) gold medal. My wife won’t let me buy anything but an Anschutz, although I am trying to convince her to let me buy a Steyr Zephyr II!!

I don't understand your point, I'm even confused.

(1) How many Olympic events has Cooper participated in?

(2) Is an Anschutz Olympic winning rifle the same as one we can buy?...Tom

 

[JimT]

These might help to de-confuse you.

https://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.php5?menu=6&sprache=1

http://cooperfirearms.com/about-us/cooper-history

There is a reason not one respondent has advised the OP to buy the Cooper.

 

[drover]

These might help to de-confuse you.

https://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.php5?menu=6&sprache=1

http://cooperfirearms.com/about-us/cooper-history

There is a reason not one respondent has advised the OP to buy the Cooper.

I say buy the Cooper. I have owned at least a dozen Anschutz in both sporter and competition style rifles and I have owned three Cooper sporters in 22 l.r, and also a Cooper LVT in 22 l.r. As was posted above there will be a greater variance in accuracy from rifle to rifle made by either Cooper or Anschutz than there is between brands.

The Cooper is American made, employs American workers and hold their value, Cooper has great factory support (if needed), and generally has better wood and checkering than the Anschutz.

I have pared my rimfires down to my Cooper 57M Classic and it is by far the most accurate 22 I have owned including my Anschutz match rifles.

As far as Cooper not participating in Olympic events - that is a misleading question. If you knew as much about Cooper as you think you do then you would know that they do not build competition rifles with the exception of the TRP-3 which is an entry level benchrest rifle. They even state in their owners manual that their rifles are not a competition rifle.

drover

 

[holstil]

That’s a no brainer question to me. You want to buy the Anschutz based on your criteria.
However, you need to consider getting the cooper later, just cause!

I’m interested to know just how good any rifle could be with a Krieger or Brux barrel! Just my preference in barrels.

 

[holstil]

My cooper will never see the olympics but that doesn’t mean I don’t want it.

 

[dolek]

I say buy the Cooper. I have owned at least a dozen Anschutz in both sporter and competition style rifles and I have owned three Cooper sporters in 22 l.r, and also a Cooper LVT in 22 l.r. As was posted above there will be a greater variance in accuracy from rifle to rifle made by either Cooper or Anschutz than there is between brands.

The Cooper is American made, employs American workers and hold their value, Cooper has great factory support (if needed), and generally has better wood and checkering than the Anschutz.

I have pared my rimfires down to my Cooper 57M Classic and it is by far the most accurate 22 I have owned including my Anschutz match rifles.

As far as Cooper not participating in Olympic events - that is a misleading question. If you knew as much about Cooper as you think you do then you would know that they do not build competition rifles with the exception of the TRP-3 which is an entry level benchrest rifle. They even state in their owners manual that their rifles are not a competition rifle.

drover

Thank you for that,it's good to see someone speaking of real life experience with both .

 

[dolek]

My cooper will never see the olympics but that doesn’t mean I don’t want it.

Now that is one beautiful rifle.

 

[Thomasconnor]

The top early 57M Classic and the bottom 36 Varmint Extreme are very accurate, on par with my best Anschutzs and the Sako in the middle above.

The two newer 57Ms in the middle are just good. I prefer the older Coopers...Tom

 

[Thomasconnor]

...... Cooper has great factory support (if needed)...drover

That's not my experience, nor the experience of friends that have more Coopers than I do, which is one reason why I prefer the older ones...Tom

 

[natdscott]

Anschutz doesn't do everything all that well.

But for .22 rimfires, they have probably tried and forgotten more things than most companies or smiths ever know.

Unless you want to go down the rathole of Olympic equipment, nobody puts a nicer or more capable "Twenty Two" on the shelf.

 

[Thomasconnor]

Anschutz is quite remarkable. Something for everyone. From their breadth of Match rifles to Sporters, and the many versions of each, their successes, actions (round, square, 54.30), and particularly triggers have all made their mark and raised the bar. Here are some 1411s, often overlooked and among my favorites for casual benchrest. Am I the only one that knows how to post pictures?...Tom

 

[JimT]

Anschutz is quite remarkable. Something for everyone. From their breadth of Match rifles to Sporters, and the many versions of each, their successes, actions (round, square, 54.30), and particularly triggers have all made their mark and raised the bar. Here are some 1411s, often overlooked and among my favorites for casual benchrest. Am I the only one that knows how to post pictures?...Tom

Never understood why anyone would post pictures of their firearms on a public Internet forum. Sort of de facto registration in this day and age.

 

[flatlander]

My .22RF sporters: 1. CMP M52D w/Broughton bbl done by Mike Ross, English walnut stock by Doan Trevor 2. Rem 541T - needs trigger work to be shootable, but a sentimental favorite that I bought with money won in a shooting match 3. CZ457 American w/ BScar 25 MOA rail & old Nikon 6-18x44 Buckmaster 4. Vudoo V-22 Ranch in Manners EH2 stock with Midas TAC 6-24x50. The heavy competition rifles not pictured are built on a CMP 40XB repeater w/Krieger, two V-22s in Manners stocks with Krieger & Bartleins, and a like-new Anschutz 2011 prone rifle. Sold a really nice old 1611 in order to buy the 2011 - wish I'd have kept it...

 

[Delfuego]

My .22RF sporters: 1. CMP M52D w/Broughton bbl done by Mike Ross, English walnut stock by Doan Trevor 2. Rem 541T - needs trigger work to be shootable, but a sentimental favorite that I bought with money won in a shooting match 3. CZ457 American w/ BScar 25 MOA rail & old Nikon 6-18x44 Buckmaster 4. Vudoo V-22 Ranch in Manners EH2 stock with Midas TAC 6-24x50. The heavy competition rifles not pictured are built on a CMP 40XB repeater w/Krieger, two V-22s in Manners stocks with Krieger & Bartleins, and a like-new Anschutz 2011 prone rifle. Sold a really nice old 1611 in order to buy the 2011 - wish I'd have kept it...

All lost in that tragic boating accident I am glad you made it home.