223 pet loads

[JB10]

Bolt rifle 73eldm with varget
AR with 75 bthp and cfe223
AR with 68gr and cfe223
I can give you powder charges if you want.

 

[CJ6]

CFE 223 and 75 gr. ELD-Ms. Single loaded .005 off lands.

 

[David Milisock]

barrel 24 inches

I'm a firm believer in experimenting, I would research loads for bullets in this weight class. Make notes of the powders, compare burn rates and I suggest a spherical powder of a similar burn rate as they'remore efficientwhile taking up less case space. You may want to even try magnum primers. The controlled burn rates of the newer spherical powders may allow a longer but controlled average pressure curve.

The 223 case, ( in my opinion) suffers from a lack of case capacity especially when loading projectiles above 68 grains. I have never been able to get enough velocity with projectiles heavier than 68 grains to offset the increased time of flight, therefore suffering greater wind drift.

 

[kochie]

Bolt rifle 73eldm with varget
AR with 75 bthp and cfe223
AR with 68gr and cfe223
I can give you powder charges if you want.

I will hit you up later thanks

I'm a firm believer in experimenting, I would research loads for bullets in this weight class. Make notes of the powders, compare burn rates and I suggest a spherical powder of a similar burn rate as they'remore efficientwhile taking up less case space. You may want to even try magnum primers. The controlled burn rates of the newer spherical powders may allow a longer but controlled average pressure curve.

The 223 case, ( in my opinion) suffers from a lack of case capacity especially when loading projectiles above 68 grains. I have never been able to get enough velocity with projectiles heavier than 68 grains to offset the increased time of flight, therefore suffering greater wind drift.

You are correct but BC has a little to do with also .

 

[David Milisock]

I will hit you up later thanks
You are correct but BC has a little to do with also .

I'll give you an example, a 22" heavy barreled 223, bolt rifle. After 18 months of testing for 300 to 400 yard varminting I went to a 40 graing VMAX instead of any other weight because the 40 grain can be pushed to 3,900 FPS.

The reduced time of flight beat out bullet weights upnto 62 grains in wind drift at 300 yards. I'm not talking some computer generated BS I'm talking measured results in wind.

The 52 to 62 graing projectiles lost 600 to 800 FPS and in wind would drift of a ground hogs head. The 40's were significantly better. 1 1/16" at 300nyards calm, in wind 2 1/2". The heavies all went over 3" in the wind.

 

[kochie]

I'll give you an example, a 22" heavy barreled 223, bolt rifle. After 18 months of testing for 300 to 400 yard varminting I went to a 40 graing VMAX instead of any other weight because the 40 grain can be pushed to 3,900 FPS.

The reduced time of flight beat out bullet weights upnto 62 grains in wind drift at 300 yards. I'm not talking some computer generated BS I'm talking measured results in wind.

The 52 to 62 graing projectiles lost 600 to 800 FPS and in wind would drift of a ground hogs head. The 40's were significantly better. 1 1/16" at 300nyards calm, in wind 2 1/2". The heavies all went over 3" in the wind.

Ok maybe true but do they still have the energy to kill a coyote out there like a 69 grain bullet between 300 & 400 yards ?

 

[rebs]

I'll give you an example, a 22" heavy barreled 223, bolt rifle. After 18 months of testing for 300 to 400 yard varminting I went to a 40 graing VMAX instead of any other weight because the 40 grain can be pushed to 3,900 FPS.

The reduced time of flight beat out bullet weights upnto 62 grains in wind drift at 300 yards. I'm not talking some computer generated BS I'm talking measured results in wind.

The 52 to 62 graing projectiles lost 600 to 800 FPS and in wind would drift of a ground hogs head. The 40's were significantly better. 1 1/16" at 300nyards calm, in wind 2 1/2". The heavies all went over 3" in the wind.

if you don't mind sharing your load with the 40's, I would like to know please
I am shooting 80 gr smk's with 24.4 of reloader 15, groups are under 1.5 inch at 300 yds.

 

[David Milisock]

if you don't mind sharing your load with the 40's, I would like to know please
I am shooting 80 gr smk's with 24.4 of reloader 15, groups are under 1.5 inch at 300 yds.

I am not home today as it's my son's 38th birthday but when I get home Monday I'll sit up.
The heavier projectiles always made range estimates a PITA they have a better SD/BC but the trajectory arc sucked.

 

[David Milisock]

if you don't mind sharing your load with the 40's, I would like to know please
I am shooting 80 gr smk's with 24.4 of reloader 15, groups are under 1.5 inch at 300 yds.

I'm home Monday and will send it up.

 

[David Milisock]

Ok maybe true but do they still have the energy to kill a coyote out there like a 69 grain bullet between 300 & 400 yards ?

Are you kidding? At 300 yards a hit on a ground hog head looks like a grenade hit it. The 40 grain VMAX expands like there's no tomorrow. Shot placement.

My boy kills coyotes at 150 with a 22 magnum, you don't need massive energy to kill them. At 400 the 223 can have issues with the wind, it's just a fact, if you go with heavier projectiles you'll have issues with trajectory ergo accurate ranging is paramount.

 

[David Milisock]

if you don't mind sharing your load with the 40's, I would like to know please
I am shooting 80 gr smk's with 24.4 of reloader 15, groups are under 1.5 inch at 300 yds.

You guys got lucky we needed more chairs so I checked my load while at home.
Rifle, Howa 1500, 22" heavy varmint barrel
Brass, Malaysian military 5.56 NATO it allowed about 1 1/2 grain more than other brass
Projectile 40 Grain Hornady VMAX Moly
Powder H322, 29 grain
Average velocity 3,900 FPS, average 300 yard groups 1 1/16"
Bolt opens with my pinky finger easily
Brass trimmed once, then neck sized only, brass requires primer pocket swaging, RCBS die set with neck die
Bullets are seated to fit the factory magazine

THIS IS A GROUND HOG LOAD! Shooting 6 to 10 hogs a day is no problem.
Shooting at a dog town in my opinion may burn out a barrel in a day.

 

[Hal]

You guys got lucky we needed more chairs so I checked my load while at home.
Rifle, Howa 1500, 22" heavy varmint barrel
Brass, Malaysian military 5.56 NATO it allowed about 1 1/2 grain more than other brass
Projectile 40 Grain Hornady VMAX Moly
Powder H322, 29 grain
Average velocity 3,900 FPS, average 300 yard groups 1 1/16"
Bolt opens with my pinky finger easily
Brass trimmed once, then neck sized only, brass requires primer pocket swaging, RCBS die set with neck die
Bullets are seated to fit the factory magazine

THIS IS A GROUND HOG LOAD! Shooting 6 to 10 hogs a day is no problem.
Shooting at a dog town in my opinion may burn out a barrel in a day.

David
Where did you get your Malaysian brass from ?

Hal

 

[David Milisock]

David
Where did you get your Malaysian brass from ?

Hal

I was at shoot years ago and picked up 1,000 cases of once fired brass for $5 from a fellow.

I found it odd as most military brass has less internal capacity than commercial brass but it works well for my handloads.

 

[wildcatter]

70 grain Berger VLD with 23.0 grains of XBR8208 in Lapua brass with fed 205M primers, was the favorite load in my Savage LRPV. It made its own list of kicked azz and taken down names in factory class on a few different ranges. It was a 9 twist which was said to be marginal? But your 1-8 should put them to sleep.

 

[kochie]

70 grain Berger VLD with 23.0 grains of XBR8208 in Lapua brass with fed 205M primers, was the favorite load in my Savage LRPV. It made its own list of kicked azz and taken down names in factory class on a few different ranges. It was a 9 twist which was said to be marginal? But your 1-8 should put them to sleep.

Thanks will check out

 

[urbanrifleman]

This is the same barrel I dropped in my fiances Mack Bros. We shot 22.5 AR Comp and 77 Sierra MK at mag length (made on my progressive) and it will shoot under .25: 3 shot groups at 100.

 

[kochie]

This is the same barrel I dropped in my fiances Mack Bros. We shot 22.5 AR Comp and 77 Sierra MK at mag length (made on my progressive) and it will shoot under .25: 3 shot groups at 100.

Good shooting thanks

 

[30378]

Never saw a 223 that did not shoot really well with 25.0gr of Varget and 69gr SMKs.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Never saw a 223 that did not shoot really well with 25.0gr of Varget and 69gr SMKs.

Or 23.5 Ar comp.

 

[kochie]

Never saw a 223 that did not shoot really well with 25.0gr of Varget and 69gr SMKs.

Ok thanks I have some 69 grain SMKs