22 PPC help please.

[RePete]

Haven't been around for a while, but I got a wild hair and thought I'd go right to the source.
I'd like to build a little low budget walking varminter in 22 PPC.
I've been doing allot of reading and have come up with what I think might work out.
If I'm understanding what I've read on Greg Tannel's web-site, I can have a Remmy bolt modified and Sako extractor added to accommodate the PPC cases.
If that's true, my plan is to lay hands on an SPS in 223. Have Greg (or someone) open the bolt face, add Sako extractor, set the barrel back and rechamber to 22 PPC. I'll toss the stock and pillar bed the barreled action in one of Boyds Walnut drop-ins, and replace the trigger with an older one I have on hand.
Should be able to get into it for under a grand.
What am I missing, if anything?
All input is greatly appreciated.

Oh, I'm pretty sure I'll have to shoot it single shot, which is fine, but since it'll be a light use hunting rig, I'd like to glue the single shot follower in. What do ya'll use? Epoxy, bedding compound, flour and water? ;D

TIA
Charlie

 

[fdshuster]

I've glued in a couple of single shot followers in Remington 700's using JB Weld, and after several years & thousands of rounds, no problems.

 

[RePete]

A good read, but it doesn't really apply to my situation.
I simply want to have something with acceptable accuracy and different from the crowd. No doubt a 223 would do everything I want and then some, but what fun would that be?
As far as brass and such goes, I doubt that I'll run more than a hundred rounds a year down her.
Just want a fun little gun to shoot a few Gophers and Rock Chucks with that won't break my piggy bank building, or my back toting it around.

Thanks

 

[JohnHenry]

Buy whatever 22-250 that suits your fancy. Convert to single shot, set it back, and rechamber to a 22BR(no turn neck). Will not need to spend $150 or so to modify bolt head and install Sako extractor and still scratch that itch to shoot something a little different and very accurate.

 

[RePete]

Dave,,, that Cooper Classic sounds ideal. I only wish.

JH,,, nice try, but I already have a 22BR. Love it, but it's heavy, and has more recoil than I would like in a sporter.

Funny how folks on all the shooting sites like to suggest everything "but" what you're looking to do. ;D Unfortunatly you're wasting your breath guys, because I'm dead set on the 22PPC. Why,, you ask. Well a few months I ran across a Bushing die for the price of a bushing, so my natural instinct was to buy it and build a rifle around it. ;D ;D
Anyway,,, An old friend from another forum pm'd me and reminded me that he has a PPC built on a 700 with a large (.473) bolt face. Says it extracts just fine. Anyone else ever do this. I've been playing around with a 220R case and one of my 700 bolts today, and can see that it's a definite possibility. Saving 150.00 on resizing the bolt and adding the Sako extractor would fit right in with my "budget build" idea.
Also wondering about the 22PPC "USA" designation on my Redding Die. I learned the hard way about the differences in BR Norma, and BR Rem., and don't want to make that mistake again. The reason I ask is that Douglas barrels lists their 22PPC cambering as "22PPC Sporter". Is that something I should be aware of?
And lastly (for now LOL), I've read that I should be able to simply run 220 Russian into my Redding FL Bushing die for the conversion. I also read an article on this site that said to use two bushing increments. I don't mind doing that, but would like to hear how those of you that actually own a 22PPC re-size your cases.
Thanks
Charlie

 

[ab_bentley]

http://www.benchrest.com/shooterscorner/

Give Bob White a call, he has more PPC's than the beach has sand. More than likely he can help you build/ buy one for under $1K. Adam

 

[skeetlee]

RePete
I agree with going with what you want and not with the same old boring everyday chamberings. However i personally didnt agree with your ideas to get there. Why not buy a stiller predator action and a chrome moly shilen barrel. The stiller action wont be any more than your remington after you have all that work done, and the stiller will always be worth more should you ever decide to sell it. Shilen has some really nice accurate chrome moly barrels they are selling through Mid Way USA for something like 160 bucks. They would be a dam site better barrel than any remington production barrel. I just think for next to nothing more money wise you would have a better rifle, plus you can get the action with a solid bottom. way more ridged!! The bottom line is you do what you want to do as this is your rifle and no one knows more about what you want. The only other thing is, you have to expect a lot of different suggestion since you brought this topic to a public forum. Some good ideas here for sure, but you decide!! Lee

 

[SRM]

I built a .20 PPC on a Remington 700. It started as a 6.8 SPC. Opened up the bolt a tad (only about .010 thousands )and used the factory extractor. Swapped the mag box for a shimmed .308 box and cut down a follower. The rifle feeds five rounds perfectly. The project to start didn`t cost much. I`ve noticed that factory Remington barrels differ in that the ss ones are a lot smoother inside.

I`d go for it but as mentioned, a custom action would be better cause the only metal work is the barrel.

 

[RePete]

The only other thing is, you have to expect a lot of different suggestion since you brought this topic to a public forum.

Not necessarily. Just because it's brought up on a public forum, doesn't mean that one's required to reply.

Believe me, this isn't my first rifle, and also believe me when I tell ya that If I was gonna use a Stiller action and a match barrel, it dam sure wouldn't be to build a 22PPC plinker.
I've got numbers from a couple of different sourses, and have this down to about 850.00.
Please post some links where I can get the parts you're recomending for anywhere near that. Hell, just post a link to a place that sells the actions for 850.00,,, let alone the barrel (and BTW CM barrels still need some sort of finish), and machine work..

I'm simply looking for some technical advice on the 222PPC caliber.
If ya have some, I'd love to hear it, and thanks in advance.
Charlie

 

[BoydAllen]

Tight neck or no turn chamber?

 

[RePete]

The smith that will probably be doing the work has .233 & .237 reamers.
I'm thinking turn-neck since I won't be loading in volume.

 

[BoydAllen]

Are you sure that you have those numbers right? They seem way too small for the caliber. If they are accurate, I would buy my own reamer, something like .246. While you are at it, ask for reamer prints, so that you can see what the other dimensions (of your gunsmiths reamers) are. Chamber design is an often overlooked area when specifying the particulars of a custom build. If you order a custom reamer,and know someone who has a rifle in the same caliber, see if you can talk him out of some of his most used brass, buy your die, size the cases, and order the reamer for the fit that you want.

 

[2000yd]

agree with the lot bob white savage bob green maybe 700 rem guy

how about 22-6mm easy form and shoot faster than ppc

to the one reply i did shoot a flagged field one day 200-1000 yds surveyrd for gas line flags every 50-100 yds or so loao all day