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22-284

skeetlee

Lee Gardner Precision
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Anyone ever try this? I had a conversation with a fella at a benchrest shoot some time back and he was shooting coyotes out west with a 22-284. I dont remember much of the particulars but one thing that stuck with me was speed!!! Pure speed. I think he was shooting some pretty light bullets. I also seem to remember he had some trouble getting the reamer just right with free bore and all but i dont remember why. I still do not have a coyote rifle as i keep building target rifle " My addiction" but i do need one and i want something that shoots flat! I mean real flat!! These coyotes around here hang out in the middle of the sections and you dont know if they are 400 or 600 yards away. I know, i know. Buy a range finder but there isnt always time for that. I am not talking about calling coyotes, im talking about sniping the dam things. Anyone here ever play with a 22-284? Lee
 
I had one chambered in a 28" Lilja for a while and after 500 rounds the barrel was pretty much toasted, from shooting the 80 SMK's with there little asses on fire. It would shoot around 2 inches at 500 yards no problem.
 
Bruce
How fast were those 80gr bullets going do you remember? Do you have a reamer for this chambering? thanks lee
 
Lee, i had Neil Jones build me a 22-284 in the mid 90's based on a Rem. 700 and 28 inch Lilja barrel. He set it up for 80 grain Sierras at the time. The time required to neck down and neck turn was the thing that got me turned off then. I was younger and had no patience. I also never did get the 80's to shoot good. I do remember finding a load for shooting 69 Sierra's and they were over 4000 fps chroneyed with deadly accuracy. After playing with it a few summers, I sold it as i hated case prep back then but wish I still had the rifle now. As Preacher said, expect very short barrel life, and if I were to build another, go with a 30 inch barrel to burn all that slow burning powder and run those 80 grainers at hyper velocity. I still have my notes for that critter, and Neil Jones quite probably has the reamer still at his shop. I saw his reamer collection the other day and he must have over 60 reamers easy. This cartridge may very well be at the top of the speed chain and would probably blow away a 22-6MM AI in a drag race. Now you got me thinking again on this cartridge. :)

Frank
 
Lee,
As near as I can remember the 80 gr SMK's were just shy of 4000 fps.
I also tried a few 80 gr Bergers but they turned into dust about 25 yards out ;D
Neal did the dies for it, and they, along with the reamer are long gone..
To much messing around with the brass to be worth bothering with back then..
My 22/6mm AI was a bit less troublesome, but still a barrel burner when I pushed it hard with the 80 gr Fowlers...
Both of them would tear stuff up no matter how far away they were....
Just seemed like if you had a hot rod it needed to be run hard...
 
Look hard at the 22-250 Ackley. EASY to run it 3800 with 55gr bullets & accurate. Also not a hard core barrel burner. I've shot everything from varmits to deer with one. You want about a 9 twist to run heavier bullets.
 
For pure speed, it is probably right up there! However between 400 and 600, and staying within the 6-10" hit zone of a coyote, will be extremely difficult if not impossible. I'm pretty sure the 22-284 won't do that. Also, at that range, there is no wing shooting coyotes, you do have time to range them, if there isnt time for that, how is the time to steady the rifle, or even make a wind call? Speed (but more importantly BC) gives one more leeway when making a shot, but cannot eliminate the need for drop and windage....

I built something similar in idea, but my goal was simply to build a cheap to shoot (relative), low recoil, mile target rifle, as well as long range hunting rifle. I ended up with a 6.5-300 win mag, 140gr Berger VLDs (.6 BC) at 3400+ fps.

Here's a link to my write up on the cartridge:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/6-5mm-voodoo-unveiled-69499/

Oliver
 
skeet as interesting as the 22/284 is.. the better choice is the 6/284..
I have never had one..i have a 700 LA sitting here with the intensions of building one.
several friends have had them and my nabor swears his was the flastest shooting most accurate rifle ever..
i have seen some targets at 300yrds they look like one hole.. but every ones complaint is very short barrel life..500-800 rounds.. I think they were running 12's and 14 twists in them with some smoken velocitys.
even out of a 26" lenght hunting weight rifle...say around 10-11lbs scoped.
im going to build one some day but i want to go with a 8 twist.
 
Lee,
I have a 6*284 1:8 Krieger @ 28.5" with 107 SMK's depending on the load I shoot between 3200 and 3380 fps with the 3200 fps and a 20 minute rail zeroed at 100 yards I only need 205/8 minutes to hit the X @ 1K I have around 900 rounds through it and haven't noticed any demise in accuracy yet, when the barrel goes I will chamber my new barrel to 6brx for my br rifle but I will build another 6*284 for LR vermin for sure, great cartridge ;)
Wayne
 

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