22-250AI fast twist light bullets ???

[284winner]

Anybody out there pushing light bullets thru 22-250s with fast (8 twist) barrels ? If so what is the lightest I can shoot without worrying about bullet separation in flight.

 

[Fuzzy1968]

I have been shooting the 69 TMK's through a 1-8 22-250AI and they are holding up great. I want to say around 3600FPS. Played around a little with the 52 Berger Varmint bullets and I would have a few blow. Not constant but enough to ruin a prairie dog trip once.

 

[Wirelessguy2005]

I have a 9 twist barrel running 55's at 3,600 and no trouble. Going to an 8 twist and a lighter bullet could be problematic depending on what type of bullet it is.

 

[284winner]

How about the 53/55 Vmax bullets ? Any experience using them thru an 8 twist barrel ?

 

[JLT]

How about the 53/55 Vmax bullets ? Any experience using them thru an 8 twist barrel ?

My barrel's a 1:9, but I've pushed the 53 well over 3,900 fps and haven't had any problems with disintegration. They shoot very well out of the 1:9 but I don't know where the critical threshold may be.

 

[NickB1075]

I have shot the Winchester white box 45gr hp thru a 1in8 twist without any trouble. I got a great deal on a couple hundred rounds and i just wanted the brass. The accuracy was ok at around an inch. But they were absolutely devastating on groundhogs and coyotes I shot with it. I think they were moving around 3900 to 4000.

Nick

 

[284winner]

I have shot the Winchester white box 45gr hp thru a 1in8 twist without any trouble. I got a great deal on a couple hundred rounds and i just wanted the brass. The accuracy was ok at around an inch. But they were absolutely devastating on groundhogs and coyotes I shot with it. I think they were moving around 3900 to 4000.

Nick

I actually have a few boxes of 50 in that same load. Wondered about If they'd come apart in this Ackley. Good to know. I'll use them up breaking in this barrel and fireforming new brass.

 

[284winner]

I've shot 40 V-Max through a 23" Krieger 1-7.7" 22-250AI,just as a curiosity. No issues.

Pass the 75 ELD's at 3450fps.

Got a bunch of 75 Amax and 80 eld-m bullets on hand for this gun. Throated for the 80 I'm sure the 75s will do great as well. Headed out this weekend to give a few loads a go. Not thinking I'll ever go down to a 40 but entertaining the 53 vmax as it's a petty slick little guy. Thinking it will be great out to 300-400 on ground hogs. Explosive hopefully at even those ranges. Leaving the 75-80s for a bit further out.

 

[284winner]

Many are enthralled with velocity...especially STARTING velocity,but 'tis impact velocity and wind slipping that connects dots.

Spotting the 53 a 500fps headstart in velocity,the 75 ELD reclaims that at the 300yd line and crushes it beyond there. Though in fairness,the 75 slips the wind better,from the muzzle and never looks back.

At the 200yd line,the 75 is within 150fps of the 53.

Hint.

Definitely an 8 twist shines in these 22-250s whether ackely or standard case. Having a 223 and 22-250 in slower twist configurations is handy as well. My decision to run the 75-80s was for some long range coyote and ground hogs. Power line hunting in areas where I hunt can offer very long pokes at coyotes in the winter. I think those heavier bullets are what the dr ordered. I'll use those 53 vmax bullets for vaporizing crows or closer range critters. Hard to beat there explosive characteristics.

 

[GrocMax]

Context is everything. What are you shooting at, PD's or paper?

There is no 10 ring shooting PD's so BC is somewhat irrelevant, a misread of wind is a miss, 0 points. Within normal distances you are better off choosing fast and flat and long PBR. ELD or other target bullet might be an excellent choice for paper but its gonna be sub optimal for a small critter unless you enjoy watching crawl-offs and gut dragging.

 

[GrocMax]

Yeah those partial hits and gut drags are great. A clean miss is a horrible thing. Context. The astute can easily extrapolate choosing the best tool for the job. Defining the job comes first.

 

[GrocMax]

Bullets matter farrrrrrrrrr more than headstamps.

Yup. And the job to be done is the determining factor on choice. I don't disagree with your reasoning based on exterior ballistic performance alone. I do disagree in that there is always only one best choice based purely on exterior ballistics.

 

[jepp2]

If so what is the lightest I can shoot without worrying about bullet separation in flight.

I had Speer 52 gr HPs (4708) blowing up coming out of an 8T 223 at 3300 fps. Depends a lot on the bullet.

 

[Sniper338]

Im running a 12 twist 22 250Aai and it wont shoot any Berger bullets really well under 60gr. Im running 64gr I think? The 52s wouldnt bughole at all.

 

[284winner]

I had Speer 52 gr HPs (4708) blowing up coming out of an 8T 223 at 3300 fps. Depends a lot on the bullet.

Same here. On a PD shoot one year fed some varmint grenades which I think are Speer 52hps and they came apart believe it or not before exiting the barrel. Very bad outcome. Never again. That's why I'm trying to gain insight.

 

[284winner]

For perspective,I'd MUCH rather gun a 1-8" 223 than a 1-14" 22CHeetah,if only because I have both.

Bullets matter farrrrrrrrrr more than headstamps.

Today that statement rings true so much better than years ago. Magnums were far more useful in the days past than today with today's superior bullet lineup. Don't think I've needed a magnum cartridge in years. Hope to keep it that way. I love em but for anchoring game, don't really need em.

 

[Sniper338]

Who's barrel? Twist is moot,bore condition is not.

Its a brux i think... pretty new... only really shot it fire forming brass shooting. I fire formed with berger 52s... didnt like them to my liking.

 

[yotehater]

Run the barnes 45 gr TSX as fast a twist as you want. I've never seen one blow up out of the 22-6mm 1in8.

Now there's a sig line...I've shot/got it all. And at am ease with the extrapolation(s).
..talk about a spout.