22-250 v/s 220 swift

[WyleWD]

So where do you get the darn brass.You hardly ever if never see it for sale.I would stick with the 22-250 or the 22-250AI myself. My ackley is a lazer too. Do you think vermin no the difference between 50 or 100 fps when they take a hit.

Huntingtons is where I almost always got brass for it before all the hoarding started.

And while I can't speak for whether the vermin know the difference, I can sure see the difference.... Swift wins. WD.

 

[Scalloper]

Thanks all. I have decided to not get the 220 swift as its realy not a deal at $600 and I am already set up with reloading for my 250.

 

[CanusLatransSnpr]

I have never owned a 220 Swift but, have owned a 22-250 and I can attest to the 250's accuracy! Not saying the Swift isn't accurate but, I have no experience. The biggest thing that would keep me from owning a Swift is my disdain of rimmed cartidges! I have the same sentiments for belted cartridges as well! Also, when I look at cartridges I look to see if the parent is still in existence or being used to any degree? As far as the Swift goes, the 6 Lee Navy has almost gone the way of the dinosaur where as the 250 Savage is still running! Atleast to a much greater degree than the 6 Lee Navy anyways. Just my .02.

Thanks,
Mike

 

[Barlow]

22-250's are great, but the 220 Swift is still the king. Get a Swift and enjoy it. I've been shooting them since 1976. Barlow

 

[oldhoward]

Either is a great varmint eliminator. Accuracy will depend on the rifle, shooter and equipment. I have several factory and customs in each caliber. The biggest surprise has been a Remington 700 classic in 220 Swift, it shoots one hole groups all day long, I must have gotten very lucky. It is simply amazing, out shoots customs, and factory rifles by a large margin.

 

[Barlow]

oldhoward, I loaded some ammo for a 700 classic 220 Swift a few years back, and was astounded by its accuracy. I tried to buy it, but it was not for sale. Barlow

 

[40X Guy]

Either is a great varmint eliminator. Accuracy will depend on the rifle, shooter and equipment. I have several factory and customs in each caliber. The biggest surprise has been a Remington 700 classic in 220 Swift, it shoots one hole groups all day long, I must have gotten very lucky. It is simply amazing, out shoots customs, and factory rifles by a large margin.

I bought a lightly used mint 700 Classic in Swift around the mid 90's. I believe the 700 classic in Swift came out in 1992. Loaded up some of my favorite 55 grain BT's and that rifle shot one hole groups also with a sporter barrel! Shot biggest white tail buck in my life with it and deer died with one shot to the neck instantly. Then like a big dummy i sold the rifle a few years later. Thats one that got away that I should never have sold. Those 700 classics are fantastic rifles.

Frank

 

[Milo 2.0]

Comparing the 220 Swift to a 22-250 is to me the same as comparing a 6.5x47 to 6.5x284.

150fps is all that separates both, other than that they're equal

 

[Witchhunter]

I have both, the 22/250 is a great round, but it is not a Swift. Best of both worlds is the .220 Ackley, solves the brass stretching issue, fast and accurate. I am on my 3rd Swift, this time I reamed it to an AI and love it.

 

[CatShooter]

Comparing the 220 Swift to a 22-250 is to me the same as comparing a 6.5x47 to 6.5x284.

150fps is all that separates both, other than that they're equal

The same thing could be said about a comparison between a Vespa motor scooter and a Super bike...

"Comparing the Super bike to the Vespa is to me the same as comparing a Ford Pinto to a Lamborghini.

150 mph is all that separates both, other than that they're equal "

 

[jghoghunter]

Comparing the 220 Swift to a 22-250 is to me the same as comparing a 6.5x47 to 6.5x284.

150fps is all that separates both, other than that they're equal

The same thing could be said about a comparison between a Vespa motor scooter and a Super bike...

"Comparing the Super bike to the Vespa is to me the same as comparing a Ford Pinto to a Lamborghini.

150 mph is all that separates both, other than that they're equal "

Vespa Super Bike / Pinto Lambo that's not the same as 150 fps.

If that's the case cartridges like 7-08,260, 7x57, and the classic 6.5x55 swede even the 308 and 30-06 would have died out long ago. In the big picture of killing animals and even target shooting 150 fps only means something in the mind of the shooter.

 

[357Mag]

Scalloper -

Howdy !

IMHO -

If you compare the .22-250 to the Swift while using the same bullet seated out of the case the same amount, then.....
in some rifles and/or magazines, having a somewhat shorter loaded cartridge oal that the .22-250 can provide might hold some appeal ?

Certainly these days.... case availability is a major consideration. If .220 Swift brass proved harder to obtain, then the .22-250 might
again be seen as more attractive ?

Just some thoughts.


With regards,
357Mag

 

[Barlow]

I think the 150 fps difference, is more like 250 fps. Posted factory numbers iirc were 50 grs ,22-250 , 3850 mv, 220 swift 48 -50 grs 4110 mv. Barlow

 

[TheOtherZilla]

All I can say is that you will never get a good answer to this question. Swift owners will swear that it is the best. 22-250 guys will say it isn't enough difference to matter..

Me? I always wanted a Swift, but ended up with 2- 22-250's at different times. My shooting bud has a Swift that he swears by, but neither of us shot anything deader than the other.. Personally I didn't see enough difference to worry about. I still would like to try a Swift someday.. Maybe it's just nostalgia.

 

[Barlow]

zilla, Go for it. Barlow

 

[CdnHotshot]

220swift calibre is only KING in the department of BARREL BURNER

22-250Remington calibres out number the swift calibre 100 too 1 in popularity, performance and selection.
You can walk into any store that retails rifles and find a selection of brand name 22-250 rifle's and a huge selection of brand name ammunition in varying bullet weights.

The factory swift rifles are 4000 fps whereas the 22-250 is about 3700 fps with the same bullet.
Any 22-250 barrel will stay cooler longer with comparable shooting - maintains its accuracy longer with less recoil and can match same distance of the swift. Reloaders can appreciate the wide array of highest quality reloading components and huge amount of publicized reloading information.

The only reason to own a factory 220Swift would be if you're not handloading and will be shooting very slow with limited rounds and would be satisfied with the limited choice of factory ammuntion.

I'd question why anyone would build a custom 220swift when there is much better choices out there.

 

[CatShooter]

220swift calibre is only KING in the department of BARREL BURNER

22-250Remington calibres out number the swift calibre 100 too 1 in popularity, performance and selection.
You can walk into any store that retails rifles and find a selection of brand name 22-250 rifle's and a huge selection of brand name ammunition in varying bullet weights.

The factory swift rifles are 4000 fps whereas the 22-250 is about 3700 fps with the same bullet.
Any 22-250 barrel will stay cooler longer with comparable shooting - maintains its accuracy longer with less recoil and can match same distance of the swift. Reloaders can appreciate the wide array of highest quality reloading components and huge amount of publicized reloading information.

The only reason to own a factory 220Swift would be if you're not handloading and will be shooting very slow with limited rounds and would be satisfied with the limited choice of factory ammuntion.

I'd question why anyone would build a custom 220swift when there is much better choices out there.

OF course the same thing can be said for the 223 vs the 22-250...

22-250 calibre is only KING in the department of BARREL BURNER (They DO burn barrels, I have smoked 5 of them)

223 Remington calibres out number the 22-250 calibre 100 too 1 in popularity, performance and selection.
You can walk into any store that retails rifles and find a selection of brand name 223 rifle's and a huge selection of brand name ammunition in varying bullet weights.

The factory 22-250 rifles are 3,700 fps whereas the 223 is about 3500 fps with the same bullet.
Any 223 barrel will stay cooler longer with comparable shooting - maintains its accuracy longer with less recoil and can match same distance of the 22-250. Reloaders can appreciate the wide array of highest quality reloading components and huge amount of publicized reloading information.

The only reason to own a factory 22-250 would be if you're not handloading and will be shooting very slow with limited rounds and would be satisfied with the limited choice of factory ammuntion.

I'd question why anyone would build a custom 22-250 when there is much better choices out there.

(Hahaha - your case sucks - you obviously have never spent time with a .220 Swift... and maybe not a 22-250. It sounds like you read the internet a lot)

 

[tdoyka]

can't we all get along. ;D
we will all get our 20 vartargs and we'll all be ok!

i'm currently reseaching a caliber that will not break the bank. i do wish the 220 swift was available and then all my problems would be solved. i think i have found it, the 22-250 ackley improved. the ai will start were the vartarg leaves off. the ai starts at 300yards and goes out to 600 with 60-75gr bullets(groundhogs, coyotes and the like). i am a stroke disabled guy, money is kinda tight, and i'm strarting to hunt groundhogs again. the 220 swift would really help, but brass and dies are killers. i've really like this caliber, around 30 years i've wanted a swift. but, a 22-250 ai will help .
22-250 v/s 220 swift will kill as far as you want. you can reload whatever you want. if you can, buy the swift. if you can't, buy the 22-250. ;D its hard to choose, but you can do it!!!!

 

[CdnHotshot]

Fellas...the subject line is 22-250 vs. 220Swift
The pros and cons on this subject are fair debate but don't start using 223 or other calibres to debate just because you can't make a viable argument for one or the other in the "subject line".
At the end of the day, everyone knows it's impossible to argue against the 22-250 calibre when compared to the forgotten 220

 

[CatShooter]

Fellas...the subject line is 22-250 vs. 220Swift
The pros and cons on this subject are fair debate but don't start using 223 or other calibres to debate just because you can't make a viable argument for one or the other in the "subject line".
At the end of the day, everyone knows it's impossible to argue against the 22-250 calibre when compared to the forgotten 220

Nonsense - I own both and there is definitely a difference, and each has it's place.

For a forgotten calibre, the .220 Swift sure has a hard time being forgotten.