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2023 NBRSA Score Nationals

It was announced that Al and Joe were going to put in their bid to hold the Nationals again next year at Raton.

I doubt anyone in attendance had any problems with this.

However, at his time, no body was aware if any other clubs were submitting a bid to hold the event at a different location.

I certainly hope it is at Raton again. The only other venue that comes close to being ideal for such events would be Saint Louis. My attitude is if Al Elliot and his crew are willing to put forth the time and effort that it takes to host such an event, I will support it 100%.

where National Events are held has always been kind of a sticky subject. It’s a big Country. Regardless of the location, there will be those that see the distance involved to be a major factor in whether to attend or not. For myself, Raton is a 14 hour drive. That is easily made in one day. For others, such as our current National Champion, it is twice that.

Not so easy.
 
Jayplace said:
Does anyone have an equipment breakdown for the shoot. I'm really curious what caliber's worked best along with what powder seems to be working.
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I would say that the overwhelming majority of shooters were shooting some variant of the 30 BR, with bullets from 112 to 118 grain, pushed by H4198, LT-30, or N-130.

there were a scattering of 6mm BR variants.

The most notable chambering that was “different” was Micheal Turner’s 30/30. Any time he shows up with his unique set up, he is a threat to win. He did very well with it, and like several of us, just a couple of miss steps kept him from going all the way.

Well, a few miss steps and John Cascarino.
 
jackieschmidt said:
I would say that the overwhelming majority of shooters were shooting some variant of the 30 BR, with bullets from 112 to 118 grain, pushed by H4198, LT-30, or N-130.

there were a scattering of 6mm BR variants.

The most notable chambering that was “different” was Micheal Turner’s 30/30. Any time he shows up with his unique set up, he is a threat to win. He did very well with it, and like several of us, just a couple of miss steps kept him from going all the way.

Well, a few miss steps and John Cascarino.
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Glad to see you did well. But, a 30/30 beat 64 other guns. Hats off to Mr Turner. I would love to compete against him. Like I always say and believe, it's the Indian. Well you must have a good gun.....just another excuse.
 
At the end of the third day of the 2023 Score Nats, the Hunter 100 in in the bag. Today, we had 46 competitors take the line with their 6 power Hunter rifles to do battle.
On a not so easy a day, Wade Hunnewell led the pack with a stellar 250-21X performance.
Second was Mike Wall with a great 250-16x score followed by Jim Dowling in third place with another 250-16X.
Great shooting on a day when twelve shooters finished with 250 scores.
Congratulations to all.
Attached below are full results of the shoot.
 

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riverman1 said:
Does the location change each year for this match?

I am looking to get started shooting VFS. I am going to start shooting a local match near me and would like to attend a national event one day.

I have been to Raton several time and always enjoyed the facility and the scenery.

It's about 10 hrs from my front door, so very doable in one day.
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Yes, the match changes locations almost every year but there is a good chance we will be back here next year. Watch the NBRSA website for announcements and details.
NBRSA.org
 
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JEFFPPC said:
Glad to see you did well. But, a 30/30 beat 64 other guns. Hats off to Mr Turner. I would love to compete against him. Like I always say and believe, it's the Indian. Well you must have a good gun.....just another excuse.
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That ain’t your grandpa’s old 30/30. And, anybody that knows Mike knows he ain’t your average Joe shooter.;) He has not competed in a long time.
 
JoeDuke said:
At the end of the third day of the 2023 Score Nats, the Hunter 100 in in the bag. Today, we had 46 competitors take the line with their 6 power Hunter rifles to do battle.
On a not so easy a day, Wade Hunnewell led the pack with a stellar 250-21X performance.
Second was Mike Wall with a great 250-16x score followed by Jim Dowling in third place with another 250-16X.
Great shooting on a day when twelve shooters finished with 250 scores.
Congratulations to all.
Attached below are full results of the shoot.
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Great shooting wade, Lots of X’s with a six power !
 
Ccrider said:
That ain’t your grandpa’s old 30/30. And, anybody that knows Mike knows he ain’t your average Joe shooter.;) He has not competed in a long time.
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It's not paps 30/30.... is that an excuse? I am impressed regardless of whose 30/30 it is. I would say he is quite a ways above average.
 
AlNyhus said:
The HBR guys are the bad azzes of Score shooting....10 lb gun, 2 1/4" stock and a 6X scope. :cool:
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Note that Wade was within three X's of equaling the x count of the VFS rifles which are 13 1/2 pounds 3" forearms and unlimited power scopes; many of which are 42 power and higher.
Wade also was within 2 x's of tying the world record of 23x's. Conditions today were not a cakewalk. I shoot a hunter rifle but I stand in awe of the real hunter rifle shooters. Al is correct. They are bad azzzz and hard as nails!
 
As can be seen, 99% of the shooters used 30BR, or some variant of In VFS. A couple of 6PPC’s, and of course, Turner’s 30/30.
There little variations within that 30BR group, several shooters use my reamer, which simply has a .040 longer neck, making the trim to length 1.445. The rest is just the usual .330 neck, zero freebore throat.

I would venture a guess that many are using the Robinett Reamer, though some prints have “Robinette“ on them but are not exactly the same, mainly in the throat area.

There is a wide variety of bullets, Many of us make our own, some favor a heavier bullet, But I always figured that at 100/200 yards, the only reason to use anything heavier than a 112/118 was if you enjoyed more recoil.

The 30BR has become the overwhelming favorite in VFS. The Lapua 6BR case that the vast majority use as the parent is indestructible. True, there is quite a bit involved in making the case, but Unlike the 6PPC in Group, case life seems to be infinite. I have heard it said that you finally know a 30BR case is ready to toss when the neck finally falls off.

1-17 and 1-18 twist barrels a the favorite. Cut rifled barrels such as Krieger, Bartlien and Brux are all popular.

There is really no big secret in the 30BR. Every variant I see will stack one bullet atop the other. It comes down to the old usual, finding a good tune, (seating depth is VERY important), and hitting that little Dot in the middle.
 
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