20 Pup
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Ledd Slinger
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No but looks interesting. That’s capacity is probably similar to a 20-222.
Ive been contemplating doing something even smaller by necking down and improving the 22 TCM case. Would have to be a single shot for feeding tho
Ive been contemplating doing something even smaller by necking down and improving the 22 TCM case. Would have to be a single shot for feeding tho
7315br
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Gabe,
Kindler had a write-up on the .20 Pup in his Terrific Twenties book. A friend of mine has a .22 Waldog which I believe is about the same thing except in .22 caliber. His is extremely accurate. I've seen him kill PD's over 700 yds with it. It's built on a Panda.
A couple of comments. "You" would have no problems in making the case, but it is a bearcat for an in-experienced reloader. On the Waldog we ruined some cases before figuring out. The other problem I see would be finding .220 Russian brass unless you already have some.
Best of luck on your decision.
SongdogHunter
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i have a .175" short .17 PPC and a .150" short .20 PPC
HillbillyLongRifle
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Ive ran several 20 PPCs before and loved that Cartridge!
Probably the most Accurate 20 Caliber ive ever shot!
Probably the most Accurate 20 Caliber ive ever shot!
Ledd Slinger
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I have a 20 PPC as well and personally see no reason to shorten it up. Would just be a pain in the butt for no good reason in my opinion.
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LarryDScott
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The 20 Caliber family, they do more on less !!!!!
Gabe22BR
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JSH
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I asked around a couple of years ago about a 20-220 Russian and variants. I was told that a bit more accuracy could be squeaked out of the PPC/220 case, but capacity of the 204 was so close for little gain and a lot more work.
So suppose it depends on intended use.
I went to 20BR and no regrets.
So suppose it depends on intended use.
I went to 20BR and no regrets.
urbanrifleman
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I would have thought that the 22 TCM would have been a great modern alternative to the old lower pressure 22 cartridges. But it apparently shoots very marginally.
GT Accuracy
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i have the 20 pup reamer, never chambered it though
SongdogHunter
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just for fun. But I'll be honest the .20 Beggs does the same much easier with less case forming cheaper dies. but with a less sexy case design
SongdogHunter
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just more efficiency. same velocity with less powder but at the expense of time and custom dies and barrel wear to fireform
Gabe22BR
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.232” neck?? Or .237 nk?
GT Accuracy
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.231 Neck
Ledd Slinger
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Yeah but with so many other smaller options available, such as the 20 VT, it makes more sense to go that route. Some people don’t mind forming brass for wildcats tho. I did it for a while with a 20VT many years ago when it first came on the scene and it wasn’t worth the effort in my opinion. Now there’s people offering ready made 20VT brass. Much easier being able to just buy 20VT brass, load, and shoot. I just don’t like how thick necks get when cases are formed into the body of the case. But to each their own if they want to conduct multiple stages of forming for brass. All the 20 calls are a ton of fun to shoot and deadly accurate
SongdogHunter
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yep .20 Viper is does the same more efficiently but you have to form brass. Needless to say I have both
varminthunter1
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I have a 20 Russian that shoots really well with LT32 and a 34gr custom flat base.
Built on a older Panda action.
Have a new barrel already chambered in 20 Pup, but have no dies.
Built on a older Panda action.
Have a new barrel already chambered in 20 Pup, but have no dies.
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