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20" 308, scope suggestions

Coach_Koon

Hey shooters,

I'm new to the dmr game, just finishing a 308 build. I can't decide on what scope to purchase or what to even look for.
Mainly going to do target shooting at <600 yards, but there is a 1000 yard range that i plan on going to occasionally.

I kinda like the idea of a first focal plan scope, because i really like the idea of using the reticle adjustments at different zoom levels.
However i have 0 experience with Ffp, so any input from some veterans would be greatly appreciated.

Looking to spend <$1,500 if possible.

Thanks for any input.
 
Coach_Koon said:
Hey shooters,

I'm new to the dmr game, just finishing a 308 build. I can't decide on what scope to purchase or what to even look for.
Mainly going to do target shooting at <600 yards, but there is a 1000 yard range that i plan on going to occasionally.

I kinda like the idea of a first focal plan scope, because i really like the idea of using the reticle adjustments at different zoom levels.
However i have 0 experience with Ffp, so any input from some veterans would be greatly appreciated.

Looking to spend <$1,500 if possible.

Thanks for any input.
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Since you're only target shooting (like me), you should seriously consider Vortex's Golden Eagle. Yes, it's SFP, but that matters little for target shooting, IMHO. FFP is good for when you want to use the reticle to judge distance, but if you know your distance otherwise as one typically does with target shooting, I don't feel there's much advantage over SFP's. The Golden Eagle is a great value for a scope that can be had for under $1500.
 
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Coach_Koon said:
Hey shooters,

I'm new to the dmr game, just finishing a 308 build. I can't decide on what scope to purchase or what to even look for.
Mainly going to do target shooting at <600 yards, but there is a 1000 yard range that i plan on going to occasionally.

I kinda like the idea of a first focal plan scope, because i really like the idea of using the reticle adjustments at different zoom levels.
However i have 0 experience with Ffp, so any input from some veterans would be greatly appreciated.

Looking to spend <$1,500 if possible.

Thanks for any input.
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Is this a semiauto 308?

Are you handloading for it?
 
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FFP has nothing to do with ranging a target. It has to do with using the reticle. If you plan to use the reticle for holds or possibly could then get a FFP. Period.

Also good question, bolt or semi?
 
Coach_Koon said:
Yes,

Yes
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www.primaryarms.com

Primary Arms GLx 4-16x50 FFP Rifle Scope - Illuminated ACSS HUD DMR Reticle - .308 / .223

DetailsThis rifle scope is part of the mid-tier optics line called GLx. GLx brings premium technology and materials into an approachable price range.The GLx 4-16x50mm rifle scope has a 4x magnification range, offering a massive field of view excellent for scanning and tracking movement, but...
www.primaryarms.com

I've got the 6.5 creed version on my ar10, my brother has the cheaper 308 4-14 magnification version on his 20" 308 ar10, and i have the 223 version on one of my ar15s. The time required to range, get on target, hold wind and fire is the shortest of any rifle system I have ever seen.

My 6.5 creed ar10 in particular is so fun and fast its insane. I can range and shoot an ipsc torso target out to 1000 yards in less than 12 seconds with that platform.

If you want a true lightning quick area denial cross course dmr this type of scope is hard to beat. Put a nice break on the end to stay on target between shots and its so fun its scary.
 
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US Optics 10x ST-10 ERGO Riflescope with Parallax III and EREK Knob​

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This particular model has been discontinued unfortunately. This is one of the best fixed 10x riflescopes manufactured. You might be able to locate one in the used market. I use it fairly continuously in conjunction with .308 rifles. USO has a new model on sale right now but I haven't had time to get one to review.

A fixed 10x scope will work great for your DMR. This one isn't light but it's built to last.

Enjoy!

:)
 
For a little bit more $ You could get half again the scope in IOR optics . Below is their description ,I own an older IOR and the glass quality is Zeiss , Swarovski , German Quality ; instead of Chinese whomever quality

Description
6-24x50 35mm 2FP MOA/MOA LONG RANGE New 2nd FP Tactical scope model, with "zero stop", digital illumination and secondary point of impact variable index. Other features include our Modified MP-8 dot reticule, 1/4 MOA adjustments, SF, 35mm tube, exceptional field of view, great eye relief and mag lock support system. Glass quality is outstanding, as are the tracking and repeatability of the scope. This one of the finest 2FP scopes ever made
 
In my opinion, a FFP scope is a serious detriment when shooting for score at known distances. The advantage of FFP is that the reticle subtensions are the same value at any power setting - but the huge disadvantage is that the "thickness" of the reticle elements grows proportionately as the power setting is increased. When you consider the X-ring on the 600 yd. F-class target is only 3" in diameter, that is a serious disadvantage. If you intend to use the scope for "ranging" targets or if you intend to shoot PRS, a FFP would be a great choice.

I would look seriously at a Sightron SIII 8-32-56. Great glass, very well made and a very good value.
 
There is no huge disadvantage if the reticle is designed correctly. The reticle covers no more of the target at max power than it did at lower powers and that is a large misconception with FFP because the reticle appears to grow but so does the target proportionally. My FFP reticle is .03 mils thick which is about 1.1" at 1000 yards. Not overly large and can easily quarter a 1/2 MOA target. Some with bad designs will be thick and cause issues but not well designed FFP reticles which a lot are today. I have shot a 12" plate at a mile with that reticle and no issues being able to quarter the taregt even with a 4 mil wind hold.

Also FFP is not about ranging targets, as I mentioned above, but using the reticle for holds. Almost no one ranges with a reticle anymore but using the reticle for wind holds and hold overs and unders or movers is a big advantage.
 
A scope does not have to be FFP in order to range with it, or use the reticle for hold-offs. However, the caveat with a SFP scope is that hold-offs or ranging using the reticle will only be accurate when the magnification is set on the calibration value. For example, a Nightforce 5.5-22 NXS scope reticle is calibrated at 22X magnification, i.e. the maximum magnification setting. Other models/manufacturers do not necessarily use the maximum magnification setting as the calibration setting. If the magnification range and calibration point of the scope were carefully selected for the intended purpose, one could use the scope [most] of the time set on the calibration magnification setting, and ranging or hold-offs would be accurate. The trade-off there is that the ability to do this effectively would be lost whenever the magnification value was changed from the calibration setting. Nonetheless, it is a way to use a scope with a SFP reticle for such purposes, at least some of the time.
 
Yup you can use sfp to do them as you mentioned but the problem comes in when you need more FOV or mirage is kicking up and you have to go off top magnification. I owned a couple of the NF NXS 5.5-22 and it’s a good scope but not one I would use for matches when so many ffp are available now. Years ago choices were limited. So much better now.
 
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