2 wolves One Shot Video

[Raythemanroe]

2 wolves one shot, I think on camera we should at least advertise to be ethical hunters. Although that being said, Do you honestly believe that animal rights groups or folks think your more humane if you make a one shot one kill ethical shots? I won't make a judgement call, Wolves aren't really something I want to make a strong comeback, The guy was working in -20 to -30 degree weather.. Nice video, cool tracks on the Honda..


Ray

 

[effendude]

Criticizing a shot off a single pole bog-pod from 300 yards away in the cold at a wolf? Suggesting he used the wrong bullet? Do we now expect every animal to drop like the edited tv shows? Most hunters have one rifle, and they use it. For everything. Some of us need to step away from the computer and spend some time in field. Both wolves on the video died, one instantly and the other ran off like any lung shot animal. It most likely died within 3-5 seconds of the shot. I would say that is very humane.

Wolves are tough to kill. I shot 5 wolves in Alaska in the fall of 2013 with 140 VLD's out of a 6.5-284. One wolf dropped at the 225 yard shot as it was a frontal shot and all the energy dumped into it. The second wolf was a broadside lung shot at the same distance and ran off before dying. The third was a little farther, but did the same. The fourth wolf was running away flat out and the bullet made mush out of the chest cavity but it ran 75 yards or so. The fifth was a frontal shot at 575 at a sitting wolf, it tumbled at the shot. Not a single bullet exited any of the wolves. Did I use the wrong bullet? The wolves acted just like any other big game animal I have shot by doing exactly whatever they wanted to.

Have any of you have witnessed a wolf or a pack killing a big game animal? It is a long, slow death of literally being eaten alive. I doubt the wolves worry too much if their prey die quickly and humanely.

Scott

 

[CaptainMal]

Wonderful experience. Thanks for sharing it with us.

As for any flak, feel sorry for those people. A wolf kill would not be "clean" but they get no complaints because wolves don't listen and people know that. Muslims don't kill "cleanly". The same people complaining won't because they are fearful and also know it will not do any good.

Ignore them and go on enjoying your hunting experiences. They are not worth a response. Don't bother.

 

[Hydenseek]

When wolves start killing humanely and reading posted signs I'll start worrying about their feelings.

Until then keep puttin holes in em.

 

[varmintshooter]

Thanks for sharing. I think the video was very well done and don't know that I would have had the patience to pull it off. Personally I think he did a great job and made a good shot. How many of us have shot an animal and had it run off a short distance before dying. I am not going to second guess bullet choice as the bullet did its job and then some. JMHO.

 

[kingston]

Fantastic video. The preparation that went into this hunt and filming is evident. Thanks to the OP for sharing the link.

 

[Fire306]

Criticizing a shot off a single pole bog-pod from 300 yards away in the cold at a wolf? Suggesting he used the wrong bullet? Do we now expect every animal to drop like the edited tv shows? Most hunters have one rifle, and they use it. For everything. Some of us need to step away from the computer and spend some time in field. Both wolves on the video died, one instantly and the other ran off like any lung shot animal. It most likely died within 3-5 seconds of the shot. I would say that is very humane.

Wolves are tough to kill. I shot 5 wolves in Alaska in the fall of 2013 with 140 VLD's out of a 6.5-284. One wolf dropped at the 225 yard shot as it was a frontal shot and all the energy dumped into it. The second wolf was a broadside lung shot at the same distance and ran off before dying. The third was a little farther, but did the same. The fourth wolf was running away flat out and the bullet made mush out of the chest cavity but it ran 75 yards or so. The fifth was a frontal shot at 575 at a sitting wolf, it tumbled at the shot. Not a single bullet exited any of the wolves. Did I use the wrong bullet? The wolves acted just like any other big game animal I have shot by doing exactly whatever they wanted to.

Have any of you have witnessed a wolf or a pack killing a big game animal? It is a long, slow death of literally being eaten alive. I doubt the wolves worry too much if their prey die quickly and humanely.

Scott

Well said.
Although lining up 2 and purposely going for the 2 kills one shot isn't something I would strive for, I don't think criticizing this guy for it is necessary, doesn't matter what bullet he used etc. it resulted in 2 wolves down, in very short order. It doesn't matter what bullet you use, what cartridge you fire it from, if you hunt much at all, you will experience game running after being shot. If you shoot for lung shots, it is more the norm in my experience that the animal runs a short distance, rather than dropping on the spot.

Thanks for posting the video.

 

[CatShooter]

Suggesting he used the wrong bullet?

Scott

Well, yeah! He didn't just grab whatever rifle was available - this was the 4th year he had gone up there for one specific animal - a roughly 80 to 100 pound canine.

So, he has spent a bunch of time, money and planning for it - with an emphasis on money. Plus he has a bunch of video cameras and maybe a camera guy.

And for this, he picks a bullet designed for Afrikan plains game, like an Eland... which as a adult, weighs in at a ton... 2000 pounds of biological concrete, with bone structure to match. Compared to an Eland, the wolf is a biological mouse.

The bullet did not open in the first wolf, as witnessed by later videos of the animal being picked up, and there being almost no blood on the off side... and it left virtually no blood trail, but a drop or two... if the blood drops had not fallen on clean snow, the animal probably would have been lost.

If there had been no second wolf, and the drops of blood had fallen in brush instead out on the frozen river, the shooter would be planning his 5th hunt.... he was not skilled, he was lucky... and that is poor performance from him, and his choice of rifle/ammunition.

So, yeah, he chose the wrong bullet.

 

[Hydenseek]

It's a wolf, the largest single handed attack on hunting that exists. Any bullet that will hit them is a good one.

 

[effendude]

Cat,
You need to get back to reality. Judging the hunter after the fact on his shooting, cartridge and bullet selection all not meeting your standards is ridiculous. Calling him lucky, not skilled? I bet you wouldn't to his face. Push yourself away from the keyboard, get outside and start showing the world how skilled you are by producing some videos.

How do you know the bullet didn't open on the first wolf? Most likely it did, but it had enough energy to pass into the second wolf and stop there. BTW, I don't think he planned on shooting two with one shot. I think doing a solo hunt while filming was a huge job and he lost track of the wolf laying down behind his intended target. The camera's perspective shows the second wolf but the hunter didn't share the same view as the camera.

The hunter has invested thousands into his cameras and other equipment. Assuming that there was no blood because you didn't see any on the animal or the snow is a leap. Amateurs as well as professionals often take the time to clean and prepare the animal before photographing starts. I know of guides who cut tongues off, superglue the mouth shut and wash and dry the animal before photographing.

Take a stroll through any local gun store or sporting goods retailer. 98% of the bullets loaded for any reasonable big game cartridge could be considered overkill if your standard is the animal must immediately drop at the shot and not pass through the animal. The first 10 deer I shot with a rifle never dropped at the shot, all had a hole in and out and ran off. The rifle? A .35 Remington with open sights, not hardly overkill in the power dept. In fact, nearly every bullet I have shot at a whitetail has passed completely through.

Have you shot a Canadian wolf? How do you know they weigh 80-100 pounds? Books or Google? The ones I shot weighed 60-80 pounds more than that. They are big strong animals. Wolves are thin skinned like a lion but they have much heavier bone structure than a coyote or your average house dog.

Scott

 

[Hydenseek]

Cat,
You need to get back to reality. Judging the hunter after the fact on his shooting, cartridge and bullet selection all not meeting your standards is ridiculous. Calling him lucky, not skilled? I bet you wouldn't to his face. Push yourself away from the keyboard, get outside and start showing the world how skilled you are by producing some videos.

How do you know the bullet didn't open on the first wolf? Most likely it did, but it had enough energy to pass into the second wolf and stop there. BTW, I don't think he planned on shooting two with one shot. I think doing a solo hunt while filming was a huge job and he lost track of the wolf laying down behind his intended target. The camera's perspective shows the second wolf but the hunter didn't share the same view as the camera.

The hunter has invested thousands into his cameras and other equipment. Assuming that there was no blood because you didn't see any on the animal or the snow is a leap. Amateurs as well as professionals often take the time to clean and prepare the animal before photographing starts. I know of guides who cut tongues off, superglue the mouth shut and wash and dry the animal before photographing.

Take a stroll through any local gun store or sporting goods retailer. 98% of the bullets loaded for any reasonable big game cartridge could be considered overkill if your standard is the animal must immediately drop at the shot and not pass through the animal. The first 10 deer I shot with a rifle never dropped at the shot, all had a hole in and out and ran off. The rifle? A .35 Remington with open sights, not hardly overkill in the power dept. In fact, nearly every bullet I have shot at a whitetail has passed completely through.

Have you shot a Canadian wolf? How do you know they weigh 80-100 pounds? Books or Google? The ones I shot weighed 60-80 pounds more than that. They are big strong animals. Wolves are thin skinned like a lion but they have much heavier bone structure than a coyote or your average house dog.

Scott

+1 on top of all that it's a wolf, who gives a s__t about a wolf.... Unless you're a treehugger!

 

[CatShooter]

Cat,
You need to get back to reality. Judging the hunter after the fact on his shooting, cartridge and bullet selection all not meeting your standards is ridiculous. Calling him lucky, not skilled? I bet you wouldn't to his face. Push yourself away from the keyboard, get outside and start showing the world how skilled you are by producing some videos.

How do you know the bullet didn't open on the first wolf? Most likely it did, but it had enough energy to pass into the second wolf and stop there. BTW, I don't think he planned on shooting two with one shot. I think doing a solo hunt while filming was a huge job and he lost track of the wolf laying down behind his intended target. The camera's perspective shows the second wolf but the hunter didn't share the same view as the camera.

The hunter has invested thousands into his cameras and other equipment. Assuming that there was no blood because you didn't see any on the animal or the snow is a leap. Amateurs as well as professionals often take the time to clean and prepare the animal before photographing starts. I know of guides who cut tongues off, superglue the mouth shut and wash and dry the animal before photographing.

Take a stroll through any local gun store or sporting goods retailer. 98% of the bullets loaded for any reasonable big game cartridge could be considered overkill if your standard is the animal must immediately drop at the shot and not pass through the animal. The first 10 deer I shot with a rifle never dropped at the shot, all had a hole in and out and ran off. The rifle? A .35 Remington with open sights, not hardly overkill in the power dept. In fact, nearly every bullet I have shot at a whitetail has passed completely through.

Have you shot a Canadian wolf? How do you know they weigh 80-100 pounds? Books or Google? The ones I shot weighed 60-80 pounds more than that. They are big strong animals. Wolves are thin skinned like a lion but they have much heavier bone structure than a coyote or your average house dog.

Scott

Nonsense...

IF you think his wolves were 180 pounds, and you shot a 180 pound wolf, then come on down and have a shot at our 100 pound coyotes.

I bet you catch 20 pound blue gills too...

 

[people]

I do not want to watch that vid again so someone please post all the stats of the shot please.

Caliber
bullet
distance

Thank you.

This way we are all on the same page and not just fighting to fight.

 

[hammerjack]

I don't see how he made the shot without wind flags set up.
I would have waited till they all lined up to drop the hammer on them. ;D

 

[Fire306]

I do not want to watch that vid again so someone please post all the stats of the shot please.

Caliber
bullet
distance

Thank you.

This way we are all on the same page and not just fighting to fight.

270 WSM, 300 yards, no mention of the bullet type.
Doesn't matter though, why anyone is arguing that the bullet type is wrong is beyond me. 2 wolves dead, one in its tracks, the other "a few dozen yards away". You can't argue that the bullets didn't work, and as far as I'm concerned you can't be more dead.
The first wolf was hit high due to the down hill shot trajectory (guessing, I like everyone commenting here, wasn't there) any animal hit high through the chest cavity rarely leaves much of a blood trail for the first bit.

Saying it would have been a lost wolf if it hadn't been a frozen river is crazy, any animal can be tracked in the snow, bleeding or not. "A few dozen yards" would not result in a lost animal in any terrain, unless you are the laziest hunter/tracker ever.
Unless you were standing there with the guy, I don't know why so many must pick apart his story and hunt. Guy spent 4 years attempting to take a Wolf, opportunity presented itself, a double at that, the guy did a great job of filming in my opinion and shared his story.
Want to do it different yourself, go for it.

Last time I checked the people here on this site were all on the same side, instead we are acting against each other, and might as well be like the commenters under the story/video link.

 

[CatShooter]

I do not want to watch that vid again so someone please post all the stats of the shot please.

Caliber
bullet
distance

Thank you.

This way we are all on the same page and not just fighting to fight.

270 WSM
300 yards
140 Nosler Acubond.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Maybe the guy planned a double and needed some penetration.. I think it was one of the better hunts I have observed.. I liked it better then some guided hunt that has monster bucks walking up while they talk and present themselves like a storybook fairy tail..



Ray

 

[Hydenseek]

I don't see how he made the shot without wind flags set up.
I would have waited till they all lined up to drop the hammer on them. ;D

Shooting without wind flags is shooting without ethics

 

[people]

270 WSM, 300 yards, no mention of the bullet type.
Doesn't matter though, why anyone is arguing that the bullet type is wrong is beyond me. 2 wolves dead, one in its tracks, the other "a few dozen yards away". You can't argue that the bullets didn't work, and as far as I'm concerned you can't be more dead.
The first wolf was hit high due to the down hill shot trajectory (guessing, I like everyone commenting here, wasn't there) any animal hit high through the chest cavity rarely leaves much of a blood trail for the first bit.

Saying it would have been a lost wolf if it hadn't been a frozen river is crazy, any animal can be tracked in the snow, bleeding or not. "A few dozen yards" would not result in a lost animal in any terrain, unless you are the laziest hunter/tracker ever.
Unless you were standing there with the guy, I don't know why so many must pick apart his story and hunt. Guy spent 4 years attempting to take a Wolf, opportunity presented itself, a double at that, the guy did a great job of filming in my opinion and shared his story.
Want to do it different yourself, go for it.

Last time I checked the people here on this site were all on the same side, instead we are acting against each other, and might as well be like the commenters under the story/video link.

Very well stated.

 

[L.Sherm]

I cant believe this turned into an arguement about if he used the right bullet on a damn wolf who gives a f_ _ _ _ there dead.